a REALLY useful Liveaboard thread

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IMHO, we have had way too many non-issue type threads here lately; from anchors to black electric cord (?!!??). It is time for something that is really essential knowledge for Liveabord cruisers:

What is the best local wine and where do you find it?

Let me contribute my nominations to start this off:

In the light category: The Rose from Vignerons du Golfe de St. Tropez (France, about 3.5 euros). Great light wine for those hot evenings in the cockpit.

Red full bodied: Naossa from the Greek island of Paros, elevated by the great winehouse of Boutari. About 5 euros. Excellent wine to accompany that aft-deck BBQ.

Any others I need to know about?
 
After deck barbeque eh? Oh! Ladyjessie you are a smoothie.. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I usually sit on the cabin top and swig PG Tips... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
well highandry, that was a posing comment. I don't have an aft-deck, but most of my Aussie friends do and they always have a BBQ and lots of good red wine.
 
LadyJessie.

Any tips for local Turkish wines, preferably dry whites.

I tried a selection from 10 ytl to 25 ytl per bottle, I found the cheaper ones better than the more expensive ones.

Mst remember to keep the empties and write comments on the labels to remind me in the future.
 
Sorry, Lady Jessie, to have to say this:
To be allowed to have ANY opinion about wines you should habe been born, at least, south of the English Channel.

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All the best from Ardelloeixe
 
/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Run for cover quick, Ardelloeixe /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Any tips for local Turkish wines, preferably dry whites.

[/ QUOTE ]Turkish wines are unfortunately not really something to become excited about. The tax on alcohol in Turkey makes even the bad wines expensive, it is difficult to find anything drinkable for less than 10ytl. But you are correct; it is my experience as well that there are some wines in that price range that are drinkable and going for more expensive wines is usually not worth the bother. Good 10ytl red is Dikmen and dry white is Villa Doluca.

The best way to find good wines while in Turkey is to sail to Rhodes or Symi and stock up on Greek wines: both cheaper and better. Symi is recommended as there is a very good wine merchant at the inner end of the harbour and he delivers to the boat.
 
5 litre box of real labrodor red from ferro nova supermarket in Faro for 7 euro 13.5% smooth enough to drink by the pint, trouble is I spent my easter month on the boat drinking and not doing the work SWMBO expected me to do. Ah well, I'll just have o go back next week to finish it off (the work - the wine was well an truly finished!)
 
Trouville is superbly experienced to comment.. he doesnt drink the expensive dross.. just what he can get.. and lots of it...

What the hell this has to do with a REALLY good liveaboard post is beyond me, preferred the black wire one from david...
Me thinks LJ might have been an accountant in a previous life /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
yeah Captn', guilty as charged. And I do find red wine to be more interesting than black electric cord. We accountants sure are strange, are we not......? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Feeling really attacked now - am an accountant married to a (retired) TV news person.
But the wine thread is really good. Last cruise in Turkey, last October, we opted out of the additional cost of paperwork to go to Greece, but figured out that after 2 weeks of slightly-more-than-moderate consumption of Dikmen and Villa Doluca, it might have worked out cheaper to have paid the extra and hopped over to Greece to buy wine (and also ham, salami and other pig products). Sorry, the bean-counter was speaking there
Our best wine 2 weeks ago in Sardinia - Isola Nuraghi, 4 EUR / 1,5 lit. For "ordinary' days, it was the litre tetrabrik at 65 cents - cheaper than beer at 1,19 for 33 cl.
Certain crew members got mutinous about the tetrabriks, but my personal preference is for non-breakable formats, especially in the straits of Bonifacio in April
 
OliveOyl, disclaimer: this is a totally irresponsible and illegal proposal and you should reject it:

In real life: the 'Port Police' in Symi have never been outside of their office. They would not be able to identify a newly arrived boat even if it was carried into their office. So, even if you arrive from Turkey you can easily moor in the harbour and enjoy the shopping/restaurant opportunities before getting back to the great Turkish cruising grounds.

If you want to hedge your bets, you just hoist the yellow Q pennant below the Greek courtesy flag. If someone questions you (not very likely); you say that you are 'in process to clear' and then you leave when your bilges are full with Greek wine. This is the way to get good wine.

The Greek bureaucracy is just stiffling and it is good to sometimes get on the good side of it. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
LadyJessie,
Proposal rejected outright. As a fine upstanding and honest accountant (?), I could never even envisage such contravention of territorial law!
PS - is the Symi wine merchant open all night?
 
The wine merchant will surely be open late, normal times for Symi is 22.00 or later. Enjoy your purchase. BTW, don't miss the fact that Symi has the best restaurant in the eastern Med: Mythos on the south harbour side. Will soon surely get 3 Michelin stars.
 
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