A Prop-fiddler who discovered Carbon fibre props!!

stmotorman2000

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Well it looks as though I am the first to start on this topic.

No I am not a closet prop fiddler, but just a previously frustrated boater with a boat that did not perform as it says on the can and a wish to share my experience.

first of all to solve my problems I did some research as to why and how props perform.

As I understand it the pitch of a bronze prop is calculated and set for optimum performance at full throttle and RPM of a vessel, but as soon as you throttle back to cruise your props become inefficient!

I am also well aware that performance is also to do with boat weight, clean fuel, clean hull as well as the engines achieving the correct top RPM etc.

Taking all this into account I have had my props repitched on several occasions with no dramatic improvement.

So what to do!!

I searched the web and where upon I discovered Contur Carbon fibre propellers, sold by Fleetwater Marine in Southampton.

Well what a dream come true......and these certainly do what they say on the can!!

Performance was up to what it should be, in fact 10% better than quoted by the boat builder, approx 15% reduction in fuel consumption therefore greater range, much quicker onto the plane.....the list is endless.

The brochure explains that the blades, being made of carbon fibre will flex dependant o the load applied, i.e. they act like a variable pitch prop, so therefore if you reduce RPM the blades adjust to the most optimum pitch to suite and visa versa. So hey presto unlike a bronze prop you have an optimum pitched prop at all times.

One thing though they are not cheap but i suppose new technology never is, but in my opinion they are well worth the expense, and set against the overall value of an underperforming expensive boat they are pea nuts.

One added advantage is that being carbon fibre, the blades do not corrode and can be individually replaced if damaged. You can even replace them oneself without taking the boat out of the water.

I was initially sceptical, as many smaller props have been made from carbon, but not to this size. I was assured they were different to anything that has come before and sure enough they are.

Has anyone else come across them....if not you will be amazed.

As you can imagine I am well satisfied.


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stmotorman2000

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Looked at my records, as I originally indicated the prices were not cheap approx 2 1/2 to 3 times cost of normal bronze prop, brochure indicates sizes range from 0.5m to 2.5m in diameter which is fairly large. Apparently they will build smaller sizes to order.

Like any new technology I thought long and hard before ordering. Similar to justifying a new laptop for £1500 when existing one will do the job but less efficiently etc... or a top of the range Merc instead of a Rover!! Both do the same job but one better than the other I suppose.

I my case pay back came very quickly as one of the other benefits of the props are the replaceable blades.

Earlier this season I hit a large object in the Solent. At the time I knew that we had hit something but only later realised how large it must have been. At the time we gave the hull sides a quick inspection, the engines put into forward and reverse, shafts seemed OK and as there seemed no vibrations, we continued on our way and thought nothing further of it. The only noticeable difference was that we were down on speed a bit.

It was only later in the day that I had a chance to dive under the boat and inspected the props and to my astonishment all the port prop blade tips had been severely damaged. If it had been a bronze prop the boat would have been inoperable.

What to do? No problem I though I had my spare blades. Lets again see if it dose what it says on the can…”Replaceable blades, can even be replaced under water”

After having experienced prop damage on my previous boat, I had ordered some spare blades for stock. Over the side I went again, removed the retaining ring, punched out each blade and slipped in the replacements, no fuss no hassle back to full operation again. Cost of each blade is a 10th the cost of a new prop.

In one simple stroke I had not only averted a potentially difficult situation, as with bronze props there was no way I would have had any headway, but I had replaced the blades myself. No engineer’s expenses, no expensive lift out and above all expensive storage ashore waiting 6 to 10 weeks for a replacement bronze prop. Adding all this up I have no doubt this would have set me back a minimum of £2500

The icing on the cake for me was that this happened only a week away from a trip to Dartmouth and across to France for the family holidays!! Just imagine the family disappointments let alone the cost to book another holiday, probably abroad with the cost of flights, hotels etc!!

These props have saved my bacon.

Sorry to ramble on a bit, but recouping the cost in savings I suppose is subjective as I feel I have already recouped the costs of the props many times over, however if you take a narrow view and just base this on the reduction in fuel costs, with a reasonable annual usage of the boat and ignoring the other benefits of the props, I calculated that I would see my costs back.

Also bear in mind the props cured a particular problem I had of an under performing boat which now works when before it did not, so again I feel the expense has been well worth it.

I will stop now, but you can now see I am a convert to these props, hence shouting from the rooftop for all to hear.

All the best.

John


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I've never seen these before John. The only similar thing was the old Piranha plastic props with replacable blades. These certainly did not do what it said on the tin...poor performance, blades that jammed in the slot, so you coudn't change them etc.

I guess the CF (and probably more modern design techniques) makes all the difference. I wish I had come across this earlier because I have only just ordered the re-metaling of my duo-props!

Ah-well :)

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I can understand your attitude. The point about the props not being destroyed is a particularly important point. My prop is stainless, so is less likely to shatter, but the bit that interests me is the flex on pitch. I have emailed the company for more data/costs

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