A Pram or Frame dinghy ?

[Capt Popeye]

Me got self involved in a Museum that amoungst other Artifacts has Boats and Dinghys on display

One quite small clincher dinghy is labled up as a Pram Dinghy , but its clearly a Stem Dinghy , as it has a pointed bow .

Asking the Museum , it appears that the dinghy was made by a local sea fearer whilst on voyage , and his decendants gifted the Dinghy to the Museum ; There might be a bit of misunderstanding about the Identification details about the Dinghy , the word FRAME dinghy appears in the gifted documents , so does anyone know about a dinghy refered to as a Frame Dinghy , maybe during its Build progress ?

To me its clearly a small Pram dinghy , the bow has a stunted build with timbers accross the boat bow

So any help , comments or observations clearly welcomed ; I woukd like to assist the Museum resolve this matter (so would I as it IRKS me to read its a PRAM dinghy )

Thank you CP

 

[Tranona]

"pram" in relation to dinghies is a bastardisation or the original Norwegian "praam" summer-boat-design.co.uk/norse-praam.html and Anglisized to mean generic small dinghies with a bow transom. nothing to do with "pram" which is short for perambolator - a carriage on wheels for babies typically for taking them for a walk in the park.

 

[MADRIGAL]

Could you tell what the hull of the dinghy was made of? "Frame" dingy may refer to skin-on-frame construction, which can include any kind of varnished fabric stretched over the vessel's frames, as well as the sorts of skins used in a traditional arctic kayak.

 

[Capt Popeye]

Could you tell what the hull of the dinghy was made of? "Frame" dingy may refer to skin-on-frame construction, which can include any kind of varnished fabric stretched over the vessel's frames, as well as the sorts of skins used in a traditional arctic kayak.

Hi there Mr M ; well I recall it resembles a Clincher built construction , out of timber ;

But , folowing thge comments on here , I must visit the Museum again and check out the construction and material details ; along with the Object description label

 

[Boathook]

Hi there Mr M ; well I recall it resembles a Clincher built construction , out of timber ;

But , folowing thge comments on here , I must visit the Museum again and check out the construction and material details ; along with the Object description label

And get some pictures to post on here. They may allow us to have some educated guesses rather than guesses !

 

[wombat88]

If built appropriately it could be called 'plank on frame' construction. Pictures would clarify.

 

[Capt Popeye]

Well thank you for all the responses , so far ; gota get into the Musem , and take photos of this Dinghy ; but the Museum opening hours are PM only and on 6 days a week ; so will resort my adventures to enable a visit when open

Thank you again CP

 

[Neeves]

Another line of thought - is the dinghy a copy of a Fram dinghy - was there anything special about the dinghies carried by the Fram. Was the local seafarer who built the dinghy involved in any way with Arctic or Antarctic waters.

Jonathan

 

[Capt Popeye]

Another line of thought - is the dinghy a copy of a Fram dinghy - was there anything special about the dinghies carried by the Fram. Was the local seafarer who built the dinghy involved in any way with Arctic or Antarctic waters.

Jonathan

Yes a good point ; might be able to get to the Museum Friday PM and take photos of Boat , Construction , Labels and any Litterature avilable ; must admit that this thread (Q) has gotton much more involved than i thought

 

[Neeves]

Lateral thinking, from Pram to Praam and Frame to Fram.

I had this thought in the deeper recesses of my mind that on some of the early polar expeditions they dragged dinghies across the ice. This may have been because they wanted to cross ice flows as I cannot imagine they went without sledges.

Building a dinghy on deck, instead of carving whales bones or making ships in bottles would have provided a diversion on long passages then, now of course they have minimum crew, climbing walls, swimming pools and zip lines. So why not copy a famous dinghy using a picture in the Illustrated London News as your guide.

I'm a romantic

Jonathan

 

[penfold]

Minimum crew definitely; my employer seems to have neglected to provide the climbing wall, swimming pool and zip line.