A Pleasing Sight This Regulation?

[TheBoatman]

Having just spent some time in Ireland sitting on rocks watching the world go by in boats I must say I was rather pleased to see every one afloat wearing some form of life jacket/buoyancy aid.
I know it's the "law" in Ireland to wear these items now, but every sailor/water user seems to have taken it on-board without a murmor.

I say it's a good thing and would welcome it here!!

I would be the first to admit that I don't always wear my jacket and regulation is probably the only way I would, a bit like seat belts, I was against it at first as my "right" to chose but now I wouldn't think of not wearing a seat belt.

So my vote is bring in the regulation and make me wear a jacket?

What do you think?

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[cruisingsam]

Here's a link to the actual rules........

http://www.marine.gov.ie/modules/pressreleases.asp?guid=85001601281208187E0012812074CF1A0128120727EF60128120796F62012812075F72C0128120796F620128120727EF60128120|2AC460|184340&arg=5EB2BA41D234D625723E1D234D625723E1D234D|2CE962|FC615&farg=344C6CB1113BB344C6CB1113BB333B3101113BB39A29721113BB|26753F|156184

Hope it works!

Not quite what you were saying but would agree with you.
We sail out of Dun Laoghaire and nobody comes out with us with out a life jacket
May be it is different for the blue water sailors

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[AOWYN]

For those of you who want even more regulations for your own good, I refer you to the following discussion about the merits of cctv cameras in bathrooms and kitchens.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/08/07/do0706.xml

The ability of governments to do good is very small, the ability of governments to do evil is almost infinite. On balance I prefer them to do nothing.

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[DanTribe]

Should the new rules be applied to the olympics to set a good example?
I watched the rowing events this morning and not one of the competitors wore lifejackets.
One of the NZ crew fell overboard, so perhaps they should all wear harnesses as well.
Dan

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[LadyInBed]

Next they will make a rule that we can only cross a road at a pedestrian crossing /forums/images/icons/crazy.gif

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[windandwave]

>>>I would be the first to admit that I don't always wear my jacket and regulation is probably the only way I would, a bit like seat belts.

So why should our liberties be eroded, and our taxes hiked, and a new intrusive bureaucracy established, just because *you* are too lazy to put on *your* lifejacket for *your* safety? Or has the concept of *personal* responsibility simply vanished?

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[abraxus]

The Irish have taken to this in the same way that they have taken to the smoking ban, with enormous gratitude for all the EU money they have received over the past years to transform their economy.

No doubt, in return for all the vast amounts of cash they have poured in, the EU have chosen to use Ireland as a testing ground for all of their interfering, liberty infringing restrictions and regulations before rolling them out on the rest of us.

Bill

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[nct1]

I would agree with you.

Unfashionable on this forum I know.

But I am willing to bet that pre seatbelt law we all wore them a lot less.

The freedom argument was wheeled out for the seatbelt debate, but I would suspect the majority accept the benefits over the extra compulsion.


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[webcraft]

Please don't post long URLs like this, it makes a mess of the page . . .

Make a link like <font size=1><A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.bluemoment.com>http://www.bluemoment.com</font size=1>

 

[AOWYN]

Like "THIS"

Like "THIS" is so self-explanatory.

If you want to educate me about how to create links, then try to teach me, I would appreciate it. If you merely want to show how unskilled I am you are kicking in an open door.

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[abraxus]

The rules themselves aren't so bad, and although I disagree with the principle I can see the benfit of such regulations such as seat belt wearing and life jacket wearing.

My only concern is that they are all part of the system of "thin end of the wedge" legislation. Governing bodies continue to justify their existence by an ongoing campaign of interfering in everyone's lives and freedoms, and once they've got away with one rule they move on to the next.

When crash helmet laws were introduced, motorcyclists urged motorists to support their case, arguing that if the legislators got their way with crash helmets then they would soon move on to seatbelts. Of course motorists refused to believe this. Now it's mobiles phones and eating snacks while driving, next will be soft drinks before they move on to the distraction of listening to the radio or talking to passengers.

I guarantee that smoking bans are another thin end of the wedge. There is already a plethora of tv documentaries showing the mess that city centre police forces have to deal with after a night's drinking and I'm sure this is just a softening up process before the busybodies move on to public drinking next. After all, alcohol is responsible for more deaths, destruction, vandalism, crime and health issues than cigarettes and drugs put together, so would be a natural and easy next target. Prohibition here we come.

Life jackets on boats may be a good idea, but you can be sure that once this has been adopted then the do-gooders will be looking for the next boating target to get their teeth into.

Bill


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[peterb]

Re: Like \"THIS\"

Actually, your link was OK. It was the one from cruisingsam that did the damage. And webcraft did try to show you how to do it.

You type in <url=link> description </url>, but using square brackets (i.e. [ and ]) instead of < and >. Where it says "link" you put in the web address, and where it says "description" you put in the text that you want to appear in your post (such as "Here").

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[silverseal]

How do you expect to get rid of Robert Maxwell, if he is fitted with a lifejacket? Come on, if idiots want to go to an early grave, they have the right to. Next you will ban smoking because it is dangerous

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[LadyInBed]

As an adult I really do object to laws that protect me from my own assessment of risk / stupidity.

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[webcraft]

Re: Like \"THIS\"

Sorry Aowyn,

THIS was just a link to the page in question and the rest of it was an attempt to show you how to do it. You use <url=http://www.xyz.co.uk/>LINK</url> using square brackets [ ] instead of pointy ones and where xyz.co.uk is the URL you want to point to. Was not trying to be smart, but maybe my explanation was unclear.

- NIck

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[Boathook]

Let Ireland keep the law to them selves.

For me it will muck up the sun tan and comfort of sailing. I read somewhere that more people drown in cars so all car passengers should wear lifejackets. Just to increase safety all roads within 300 yards of water should be moved further away and if all swimming pools are filled in this would further reduce drowning !!!!!

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[cruisingsam]

My apoligies for messing up the page, i didn't know how to do that link thingie, i do now.
Is there any where on the forum where this sort of info is shown?? Had a quick look but couldn't find anything

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[Dominic]

Back To Square One

So the Irish have to wear Lifejackets.

How many Irishmen/women drowned last year ?

Not drowned in their baths, or swimming pools, or fell off a dock, or drowned in their cars when they spun off into a river. or drowned while trying to committ suicide.

Is this a problem that is big enough to require legislation ?

To put it another way ;
Are you wearing a condom ?
I mean wearing one now ?

You are probably in the presence of other people and something may happen.
Got to be ready - mustn´t take risks.
This is a problem that affects many thousands more.

(Despite that there are times when it is sensible to wear one - lifejacket I mean though the other also applies. Finally a harness can be a better option - in either case.)





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[webcraft]

Peter,

The Irish only have to wear LJs in the tender - if your yacht is over 7m - and even ours is - then it doesn't apply.

Wearing LJs in the tender is common sense. For years I didn't do it - but then common sense was never my strong point.

- Nick

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[peterb]

Mark-up tags

When you either post or reply to a post, the form has a heading bar which includes "Help". Click on Help, then look at "Mark-up tags", number 27.

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