A happy holiday experience; irony at it's worst

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A happy holiday experience; irony at it\'s worst

We left La Rochelle quite early, heading north for Les Sables D'Olonne, with typically te wind from almost dead ahead. We could get a bit of the main drawing, but kept the engine on as we had some 36 miles to cover, and the firtst part was inside of Ile de Re and straight up-wind. The wind freed a bit when we cleared the island and we could get sails drawing, and settled down to an easy sail.

Approaching Les Sables, we noticed thick black smoke from initially one source, then two. Then we saw red flares and rockets being fired off. As we got nearer, two yachts who were ahead of us, stopped in the entrance channel to Les Sables. Something was up. They then both turned around and came out. One crew member on the second yachts indicated that the harbour was closed. I called the marina on VHF and this was confirmed. It appeared that the fishermen had closed several harbours, Les sables being one of them because the EEC had reduced their quotas.

We had no alternative but to go back out to sea. We had two choices; to return to La Rochelle, which wasn't good as we had waited nearly 5 days for suitable weather to leave. Or to go further up the coast to Ile de Yeux. Which we did; a further 28 miles hard on the wind.

Ititially the autohelm managed to sail the boat and things were fine. We were making 7 knots through the water. But the sky got progressively darker, and the wind was increasing. We saw several heavy showers pass over, but at that time none came near us. Ile de Yeux is very low-lying, and it was some time before it was visible, but by now we were sailing quite fast, with just a couple of rolls in the genoa, but full main set. Speed had increased to 8 knots plus, but in the gusts we were being somewhat overpowered. We would then round up into the wind, taking the waves over the bow, the spray coming over the sprayhood into the cockpit. I took over the helm as the autohelm wasn't coping, but to be honest I wasn't very much better. I was about to ask for help in reducing the main when we were hit by a stronger gust and rounded up again. Water sluiced down the decks, came over the sprayhood and gushed down the companionway hatch. Onto the nav table, and the laptop. Which instantly died.
There was an approaching rainstorm that had reduced visibility to around the pulpit, so I couldn't see where I was going. HWMBO shot below to se if there was anything he could do to restore the computer.

I should explain that we have been using the laptop below, with a screen in the cockpit protected by the windscreen and sprayhood, so we had full nav data on deck, as well as the track to steer. Now all this was gone, and we only had the back-up navman chartplotter below. So Richard stayed below and gave me the course to attempt to steer, as viz on deck was hardly anything.

The island wasn't far away, we were sailing at 8-9 knots, mostly under control, and the wind was howling around us; very gusty, maxing out at 32 knots. And we still had full main.

The rainstorm cleared, and the island appeared rather close by now, so while I had visibility, Richard reduced the main (thank heavens for in-mast furling), and we were a bit more under control. We hadn't really slowed down, and were charging along, especially as we were now being in the lee of the island and in smoother water.

The marina is through a narrow entrance, followed by two sharp left turns, and isn't very spacious. Luckily we were met by a lad in a dory, who took us into a berth which we made fairly easily despite the gusting wind.

I was soaked to the skin and had to change all my clothes as I ahdn't had a chance to put on my oilskin overalls; I had on just my jacket which wasn't adequate. Richard had been below with the hatch closed and had called up the course directions, and was feeling sick. My hair was plastered over my face; an improvement perhaps?

The boat was alright. But for us, it was just another incident in this lousy summer weather.
 

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Re: A happy holiday experience; irony at it\'s worst

Fantastic! In a horrid sort of way.. So glad it all worked out for you - and I do agree about inmast furling.

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Are you available for hire as a watch leader ? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Good story, and one to last any number of re-tellings in due course !
 

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I'm glad you survived unscathed. It sounds a little like a PBO "learning from experience".
In the past when the fishermen blockaded the ports they would let yachts through and just stop comercial traffic, are they getting even more militant or is it that Le Sable D'Olonne has litte comercial traffic to stop?
When they blocked the road outside Granville, they turned round all the cars until I arrived with my Etap on a trailer and they waved me though! It cost me a few beers next time I saw them in town!
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Re: A happy holiday experience; irony at it\'s worst

We did almost exactly the same run 2 years ago but leaving from Rochefort (just south of La Rochelle).

That time it was too rough to enter Les Sables. We did find the waves around Les Sables to be very confused for quite some way off, which meant I was feeling queezy and SWMBO was bringing up breakfast. Sent SWMBO below and helmed all the way myself to Ile de Yeu.

The following day we had a northerly force 7 and were ejected from Ile de Yeu because the marina was needed for a race fleet. It was quite a shock going from flat calm just inside the walls to 3 metre swell in just a few yards. In the end we beat up to Pornic as the nearest safe harbour. It turned out to be a lovely place and would definitely recommend if you are down there again.
 

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Re: A happy holiday experience; irony at it\'s worst

We had similar sailing experiences on our 3 week holiday trip but didn't manage to take water down below. But then we only had one leg without a reefed main.

However, I do think you should have a proper nav data repeater in the cockpit, relying on a un-marinised laptop which might crash from shock loads, even if kept dry, is pushing it a bit.
 

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A great area to be in, Pornic is very good, or the U boat Pen at St N for the exprience and if you have time the Villiane River and the real jewel just around the corner - Penerf.

Re the wet stuff coming on board I guess you will be all the better for this experience - every sailor on the water has to learn this exprience, it really is true if you are thinking shall I reef its generally too late. Perhaps some back up in the form of pilot books or papercharts? can't comment on chartplotters otherwise as I don't have them as a 70s trained engineer I always assume electronics will go ping in a marine environment cause they always did.

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Re: A happy holiday experience; irony at it\'s worst

When was this ?
When we arrived at Les Sables on 7th July it had just been re-opened after being closed by fishermen. Not sure how they get away with this sort of thing, coz it is a very busy entrance - for small coasters as well as yachts and fishing boats. Apparently an Aussie boat trapped in for a week had managed to break out.
There was a racing event on (french 420 / 470 Nationals) and it was opened in time for this to take part. Was it closed again afterwards?
A few miles north St Giles Croix de Vie was still blocked by a rope across when we visited on 11th July.
 

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Must have been about that time. I have a personal log but I've just put that computer away.


As to having paper charts, yes we do. But when the means to find out exactly where you are when approaching a port with nil viz is removed, it is too late to be plotting. We were travelling fast, and anyway the navman chartplotter knew exactly where we were. Prior to the screen on deck, we used a Garmin hand-held to give a track and distance to next waypoint. The screen with track, chart and waypoint info is a big improvement, believe me.

That screen was only at risk when we were punching into a F6 with very strong gusts which caused sea water to be driven up inside the sprayhood-to-screen join and actually come into the sheltered area. But that was another unpleasant experience. We have had several this summer /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 

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Hi Becky

I've never been keen on using laptops for navigation, and ours stays firmly in its case until we are in port. We use a Raymarine chartplotter which is sunlight readable and can take a direct hit from the seas without any problems

The past few weeks have seen us sailing almost exclusively with our No3 jib on the inner stay and a double reefed main in winds from 10-30 knots. Our speed has never dropped much below 5 knots and often reached 7.5 - 8. It's a stress-free set up and the boat feels balanced and well under control at all times. Looking around us, we could see many boats sailing with far too much canvas and making heavy work of it.

Sounds like you could have done with a bit less main praps?
 

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Re: A happy holiday experience; irony at it\'s worst

Becky,

Not wishing to sound disparaging but your trip had all the ingredients of a "How not to" lesson in sailing! You say you saw lots of rainclouds (but still didn't have your jacket on) and were hammering along (out of control as you admit) and still didn't reef the main (which was an in-mast system as well). The penalties were paid and the lessons learned though - main one (no pun intended /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif)being "Summer?...What Summer!

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Must agree, I would have concenttrated more on reducing sail than estabilishing position and DTW/BTW. It should provide more control and reduce risk, and hence more time to think properly ...... but there again, in the heat (?) of the moment, thinks may seem different.
 

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Becky,
Just a small point. Why didn't you consider Bougenay which is a lovely marina about 5 miles south of Les Sables. You can get in under most conditions.
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i will hold up my hands and admit the cause of being over-canvassed.

Well, there was this French yacht about a mile ahead of us, and i was convinced that we could real him in. Just a couple aboard, just like us, but perhaps a bit bigger/longer.

And by George we caught him, out-pointed him and drew ahead.
So, we were properly canvassed for the main wind strenght; just a bit overpressed in the gusts, and we all know that they don't last too long.

Usually /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

But we did have English sailing standards to maintain.

Anyway, I could manage the gusts by spilling the main a bit, and keep the boat speed up in the steadier winds. I was doing fine until the rain obliterated my viz, so I couldn't anticipate the gusts.

Competetive, me???
 

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We have used a laptop for the first time this year for the chartplotter. The maxsea programme is excellent. We have kept the pooter on the chart table, where by and large it has been fine. But we have also had a new windscreen and sprayhood made/fitted, and these have different aerodynamics to the previous one. We only got water down below in extreme conditions in the past, which we certainly haven't experienced this year.
Previously we would have had a chart on the table, and it wouldn't get wet except from water coming off the foulies worn by the crew.
Now we have a bigger sprayhood, and in windy conditions there appears to be an eddy which can direct water down the hatch. Now we know, we shut the hatch. Simple.
The TV we have on deck is the cheapest 12v LCD screen we could find. It is almost easily readable in sunlight, gives a clear read-out of the chart and the track, and in dicey places, one can pick one's way round the rocks. So for the one on the helm (or the autohelm buttons) it is easy to see where one is going. Night entrances to harbours have never been easier. And in the shelter of our sprayhood it is pretty safe. In fact the pooter that got soaked was left on the engine all night to dry out and was able to run for another 3 weeks before the salt ate through the on-switch contacts.

It is a cheaper way of achieving on-deck nav data, and for us it works very well. This year has been a severe test, you must admit.
 
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