Small Motorsailer

Re: Is there a middle ground

stuartwineberg said:
Always fancied a boat in the motorsailer category, around 32 feet but can't afford the madness of new nauticats/nordships and so on but don't want the joys of a late seventies machine with the inevitable attendant problems. I am reasonable DIY handy but not up to serious refurb work. What is out there in the 30 to 50k mark?
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LM are great, from a time when quality was more important than low price. Btw. LM is today a market leader manufacturing wings for windmills.

Several models, more or less sail or motor, was made. More than 40 for sale just now here in it's home country, from 23' to 32.

Nice LM32's available for under £30k
http://www.guloggratis.dk/sport/baade/motorsejler/lm/annonce/billeder/28447303-lm-32-motorsejler
 
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Hmm. The underpowered sailing yacht may be a menace, if the crew is over-reliant on the auxiliary...although at this time of year in the Channel, I'm most attracted to yachts whose sailing performance is so good, the engine is virtually redundant except for berthing...

...but the "yacht with a big engine" still leaves the helmsman outside in dirty weather when even a poor-sailing, underpowered motorsailer would enable the helmsman to escape rain and wind, steering from indoors...

...that's what "motor-sailer" means to me, and is virtually the whole basis for its appeal.
 
Somewhere in the copies of old yachting world annuals ther3 is just the right boat with wood stove to boot an American design sometime in the 6os......My father had an early fisher 30 I think it was called a freeware anyway one of the delights was you could stand in the wheelhouse and watch the world go by whilst drinking tea, The down side was it was based on the small mfv type so rolled a lot.Looking at modern designs of sailing boats with board transoms I cannot see why a hybrid design would not work, not superfast to windward but in all other directions quite acceptable.From my point of view the wheelhouse should stand proud and avoid styling...nice upright shapes none of this streamlining
 
Ahoy Colvic, that's a '79 Cox, Sally the Seagull with a 12hp Yanmar. Most of the Priorycraft / Cox have bilge plates, but it was an option, so some like Priorycrafts' '76 Puffin and '84 Muddy Waters, don't. Regards, Dave
 
Tranona said:
Colvic Watson 23. Lots of money left over to buy expensive fishing gear (and beer).
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When my Colvic Watson (23'6") was in a cradle at my boatyard they parked a Fisher 25 next to me. And from a distance I could not see how the Fisher was 18" longer,
so I put a tape measure on both hulls (at the waterline) and they were both the same length.
The reason the Fisher 25 is 18" longer than the Colvic is that the Fisher has an 18" rudder stuck on the back whereas the Colvic has the rudder underneath the stern.
Although my Colvic Watson is up for sale at £6500 there are quite a few being listed for sale.
A fine sea boat and well made. Think of a Trusty 23 without a mast.
 
Wasn't the emphasis on small, in this thread?

30ft isn't large, but it's hardly petite either. And Steadfast did build a 24-footer, already discussed here.
 
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