40 foot centre cockpit liveaboard?

[neil1967]

Hi

I'm looking for a 40' yacht as a liveaboard for SWMBO and I, predominantly warm weather, but with the ability to do a circumnavigation. I already own a 2008 jeaneau 36i in the med, which we are very happy with for holiday sailing, but we won't be using her as a liveaboard. I would like a 38-42' centre cockpit yacht, and have been predominantly looking at Moody's 40, 422 and 425, but I would be grateful for any comments on the merits, or otherwise, of the oceanis 40cc or the dufour 39cc - looking at late '90s models. Or indeed, any other suggestions for cc yachts of this size in the £60k to £110k range.

Many thanks

Neil

 

[DogWatch]

I want I need I want/need/want/ne.....

If I change with an eye to living onboard, it will be a fisher

 

[dt4134]

Not sure if they're in your price range, but I've seen a couple of Contests recently that might otherwise fit your bill.

 

[jonic]

Hi

I'm looking for a 40' yacht as a liveaboard for SWMBO and I, predominantly warm weather, but with the ability to do a circumnavigation. I already own a 2008 jeaneau 36i in the med, which we are very happy with for holiday sailing, but we won't be using her as a liveaboard. I would like a 38-42' centre cockpit yacht, and have been predominantly looking at Moody's 40, 422 and 425, but I would be grateful for any comments on the merits, or otherwise, of the oceanis 40cc or the dufour 39cc - looking at late '90s models. Or indeed, any other suggestions for cc yachts of this size in the £60k to £110k range.

Many thanks

Neil

Neil I have a regular crop of these type of yachts. See my signature below.

I personally have a Moody 38 which we have sailed through the Med, the Caribbean and the USA. I think a Dixon designed Moody is a great all rounder for long distance. I also considered a Dufour 39 CC, the larger Westerlies and the Amel Sharki. The Island Packet 38 might fall within your range too- although not a cc.

 

[davidfox]

We have a 422 the plus points. fantastic aft cabin, ensuite heads and proper shower, reasonable forward cabin (a bit short in the leg room) and workable passage cabin. good sized saloon. Good passage boat capable of putting up with more than i can.

Downside. smallish cockpit it all depends where you are going to live, if it is going to be sunny, then I would prefer a larger cockpit if not then living accomodation is important and we (5) have lived in perfect comfort for up to 3 weeks on her.

 

[auditdata]

Also an Oyster 406. See www.sephina.org. There are two others for sale at present and would be at the top end of your price range but what a boat!

 

[Tranona]

Bavaria Ocean 38 or 40. Newer and arguably better than equivalent Moodys. Particularly nice one owner 40 for sale in Corfu at the moment. Also Benny 40CC with same broker. Not so nice in my opinion, but still worth considering www.pinnaclyachtsales.com No connection - just happened to look at them when I was there a couple of weks ago.

 

[silver-fox]

In Praise of the Moody 425

Having lived on a 425 for several years, here are my original reasons for choosing a 425 - a choice which incidentally has met my every expectation!


What were our selection criteria? Well, in the end we decided the following were important to us: -

1. Capital cost below £100k, (much less if possible!!)
2. Fibreglass for low maintenance
3. Proven, stable and seaworthy (decent keel/ballast, stable, small windows, moderate size cockpit etc)
4. Reasonably fast for good passage times (LWL and fin and skeg were factors here)
5. Roller reefing main and foresail to encourage us to reef early and often and in safety from the cockpit
6. Sloop rather than ketch as the roller reefing gives great variety of sail plans without all the extra mast and rigging
7. Large enough to live on comfortably and have guests from time to time but not so large costs went into the stratosphere. In the end we decided 40ft min and 45ft max.
8. Good storage
9. Decent size saloon with straight bench seats that could double as bunks or for just plain slobbing about on.
10. Spacious aft cabin with centreline bunk (important to us for living aboard)
11. Good sized galley with plenty of cool storage
12. Good engine access (3 sides)
13. Marinised Ford diesel (by Thorneycroft) so parts cheap and readily available.
14. No teak decking (gets too hot and too expensive says Nigel Calder and who am I to argue?)
15. Clear uncluttered decks with area to sunbathe
16. Plenty of opening hatches for ventilation

 

[Sybarite]

Hi

I'm looking for a 40' yacht as a liveaboard for SWMBO and I, predominantly warm weather, but with the ability to do a circumnavigation. I already own a 2008 jeaneau 36i in the med, which we are very happy with for holiday sailing, but we won't be using her as a liveaboard. I would like a 38-42' centre cockpit yacht, and have been predominantly looking at Moody's 40, 422 and 425, but I would be grateful for any comments on the merits, or otherwise, of the oceanis 40cc or the dufour 39cc - looking at late '90s models. Or indeed, any other suggestions for cc yachts of this size in the £60k to £110k range.

Many thanks

Neil

Amel Santorin 46'
Amel Sharki 39'
Salar 40
Vilm 116 38'
Trintella 40'
Atlantic 40'

http://www.annoncesbateau.com/voilier/occasion-annonce-461360.html (Santorin)
http://www.annoncesbateau.com/voilier/occasion-annonce-461325.html (Sharki)
http://www.europ-yachting.com/salar-40-voilier-fifty-d-occasion-SALAR22929AA.html (Salar Buccaneer)
http://www.sailingmagazine.net/boats/3-perry-on-design/377-vilm-116 (Vilm 116)
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1975/Trintella-Iv--2295082/3253-ME-Ouddorp/Netherlands (Trintella 40)
http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boati...le/77104/?searchid=&page=&preview=&logview=no (Atlantic 40)

 

[V1701]

Nic 39 here if you are amenable to considering an older design...

 

[lufc71]

What are the benefits of a centre cockpit?

I've seen a couple of crackers recently and was going to post a thread on this as I've never set foot on one.

 

[Malabar]

This is my dream yacht and meets your spec precisely:

www.salvationjane.co.uk

She is priced to sell.

 

[Ex-SolentBoy]

This is my dream yacht and meets your spec precisely:

www.salvationjane.co.uk

She is priced to sell.

This boat is moored very close to us. I can confirm she is very nice. Worth a look at.

 

[fireball]

This is my dream yacht and meets your spec precisely:

www.salvationjane.co.uk

She is priced to sell.

She's cheaper on the Yachtmarket site! - link above.

 

[Blue5]

What are the benefits of a centre cockpit?

I've seen a couple of crackers recently and was going to post a thread on this as I've never set foot on one.

A decent bed!!

After a years cruising the only regret is a cramped bunk, after all you spend a fair bit of time in it and a cc delivers. Silver Fox seems to have it sorted.....

 

[lufc71]

A decent bed!!

After a years cruising the only regret is a cramped bunk, after all you spend a fair bit of time in it and a cc delivers. Silver Fox seems to have it sorted.....

lol - well I can see how that would be an attraction, but are there any other (perhaps a little bit more technical) pros or cons?

 

[markleuty]

lol - well I can see how that would be an attraction, but are there any other (perhaps a little bit more technical) pros or cons?

Sensible access to the engine.

Because the engine is under the cockpit there's a mahoosive engine room.

Mark

(+1 Vote for the Bav 40 Ocean as the happy owner of one)

 

[VO5]

What are the benefits of a centre cockpit?

I've seen a couple of crackers recently and was going to post a thread on this as I've never set foot on one.

The engine is under the cockpit floor. Depending on design access is easy. In my case I have 4 accesses, from the port walkthrough, from the sail locker to stbd, from the front under the steps and frm port through a galley locker.
Therefore the engine compartment segregates the stern area from the saloon, galley and nav station.

This arrangement allows designers to maximise the remaining space, which in the case of my Sealord 39 is cavernous.

The aft cockpit can then have full length broad berths, and the rest of the accomodation the same.

I have full headroom throughout which is an added plus.

Then again as the engine room space is not big, it leaves a lot of space either side. The benefit of this is a huge sail locker to starboard and room for a wide walkway to port in which there is space for two tiered bunks.

Some owners use the top bunk for storage and the bottom as a skippers berth. Others use the top bunk for the children, who in my experience love the novelty of sleepin up there.

On deck, all lines lead back to the cockpit.

Another benefit of centre cockpits is wheel steering.

The deck above the aft cabin can be used for storage on passage for the l'raft, dinghy, etc.,

And yet another benefit is not getting a wet bottom in a blow.

 

[LadyInBed]

Take a look at a Colvic Countess 37, but don't dismiss it till you have looked at the interior space. They are well within your budget.

 

[laika]

Or indeed, any other suggestions for cc yachts of this size in the £60k to £110k range

An Oceanlord with a couple of cases of lafite rothschild '90 in the cavernous cockpit locker?