24 volt Vs 12 volt systems

alandav123

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Hi all, as some of you may have read I had a near sinking.... so the alternator & starter are off and there was not really any other wiring to speak of other than up to the dashboard, and gauges.

My question is this ..on an engine such as mine a Mercedes OM352 marine diesel 120HP what exactly is it that determines whether its 12 v or 24 volt?

Is it the alternators output which in my case puts out about 26 volts at half revs?

When I did a direct jump start by-passing the solenoid to get the engine running again today I did notice a huge spark at the alternator so much so that it crossed my mind as to whether or not the starter was 12 volt or 24volt.

There is a mercedes dash board fascia which looks origonal and I understand its 24 volts also.

Point is..... would I make life easier in the very long run by changing out or refurbing the alternator/starter for 12 volters and make everything 12 volt OR is there some other reason to keep it all 24v.

Perhaps the starter needs to be 24 volts as its a 6.0 litre engine with a reasonable compression ratio and takes some spinning over.

Or maybe the oil pressure switch, temp sender, engine hours counter, dead man solenoid, etc are all 24 volts so a change-over is not feesable, I just wanted to make a good choice while all the units are removed from the block.

Theres a seller on ebay with a new 12 volt bosch starter for an OM352 asking £65.... I would be way over that amount to get a re furb done....do you see where I am going with this?

Its a times like these that I really wish I had learnt more about electrics...mechanics is my game as I can see everything.......electricity is invisble to me.

Regards Alan
 

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How are all the batteries, domestic and engine, set up ? I'd stick with whatever you had before as the wiring will be specced for the load. If you go down to 12v from 24v, you will need beefier wiring everywhere.


Loads of trucks run on 24v, so spares or repairs might be best served by contacting your local service centres.
 

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As you said you have a simple electrical system then it would not be a big deal.

And especially since the wiring's been flooded, replacing it anyway to change voltage would give nice peace of mind against future problems.

Pete
 

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Electrical stystem

It is not clear from OP whether he has a 12v or 24v system. The battery or batteries will be the give away.
2 x12v Batteries in series for 24v system. As said 24v system for large engines is definitely worth having. To change to 12v system is to invite poor performance and starting difficulties.
However if it was a 12v system and it worked OK then stick to it. To change the instrumentation would be a lot of work. You would need a 24 to 12v converter to run nav gear etc which only runs on 12v however this is not so expensive. Stick to 24v olewill
 

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Hi all, it is a twin battery 24 volt system and I had thought that was made clear but perhaps not. Going to stick with the 24volt as I assume mercedes know what they are doing. These engines were used in the Unimog vehicles preffered by the military.

Regards and thank you all

Alan
 

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You don't need a dropper, you can centre tap the 24V to get 12V

Not good practice unless you have a sophisticated charging system that treats each battery as a separate entity and charges them accordingly.

Why, one battery gets drained more than the other.

OK if the load is very small AND you equalise the bank every few weeks then you can get away with it but otherwise please don't do it.
 
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