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Another thought. OK we understand the so-called logic of 2 vs 4 stroke engines and emissions - whether we agree or not is beside the point really.

BUT ... what about the Generators from another thread on here ? 2 strokes many of the smaller ones .... and getting popular ... soon every garden will have one !

Will 2 stroke legislation eventually catch up with all engines regardless of what use ? It's frightening - well it is to me !! All that oil-changing, kg's to hump around etc. etc.

Better grab what you can now before it's all legislated off the shelves ....
 
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Now Nigel! consider yourself reprimanded in the strongest possible terms! That is blatant scaremongering, and one can only assume that you have come into a considerable number of shares in some eastern block manufacturer of two stroke electrical generation equipment?











Yours most unsincerely etc. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Is it only me, but who else is not surprised that the old eastern bloc countries feel so at home in the bureaucratic EU?
 
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Will 2 stroke legislation eventually catch up with all engines regardless of what use ?

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Thought it applied to all 2 Stroke engines built after a certain date.

Could be wrong!
 
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Will 2 stroke legislation eventually catch up with all engines regardless of what use ?

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Thought it applied to all 2 Stroke engines built after a certain date.

Could be wrong!

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Well, I suppose that's the end of the dear old Trabant then!................sob................sniff /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Wassat gotta do wiv anyfink? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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It's a recreational craft directive, so applies to boat engines.

The emmissions regulations came in for diesel and petrol 4strokes on Jan 1st 2006, whilst 2 strokes were given and extra year, and the same regulations didn't come into effect until Jan 1st 2007
 
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Scaremongering indeed and worse still, may seen be by some as bordering on Twaddle!
Good on ya.
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Scaremongering indeed. Worse than that, it may even be seen by some amongst us as Twaddle. God forbid!

Good on ya.
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The legislation is rather complex - actually new two stroke outboards aren't banned - just those that are carb fed, and don't meet emission controls. So in theory, if you could make the technology cheap enough, a direct injection low emission 2 stroke would be legal to sell. In practice, too difficult to do for a small outboard. But actually most existing ones are so simple, they could be kept going for years and years.
 
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I made the point that 2 strokes haven't been banned and that existing ones can be used, and even dealer stocks continue to be sold, elsewhere. Though people didn't take kindly to the information.
 
I was careful about my post - as I know it\'s not banned ...

but subject to stricter emission control.

Scaremongering ............ What Me ?????? Now would I ever do that ????? /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Some posts mention direct injection ... now is that Direct Oil Injection as seen on some of the larger 2 st's or Direct Fuel Injection ? as per WalPhilips injection al'a Lambretta's ?

Yeh - I had a Lambretta and WalPhilips injection .... used to kick-back when starting something awful ... used to really hurt when it caught your shin !! Took it off and put on the Amal carb ....

Reason I ask ... Fuel Injection for 2 st's has been around for years ... but would it be good enough ? Probably not as I suspect ....
 
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Not an expert - but I guess emission controls on 2T's would be aimed at reducing unburnt fuel being ejected in exhaust (and hence oily slick's in the extreme case of a seagull), and reducing the burning of the oil, to reduce particulates? I guess if a computer can control the amount of fuel oil mix (not using pre-mixed fuel/oil), and the rate of flow into the engine, you could reduce the problems. That's what the mega large complex 2T's do?
 
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Yes, well, what about all those chain saws, leaf blowers, strimmers, hedge trimmers etc etc etc.....
 
See I\'m not the only one ....

I know a lad out here with one of these Guilera Moped jobs ... all regulated to 45 Km/hr ... he tinkered about and this thing flies ! He has to be careful to reset it for Technical inspection !!

But it's 2 st ... and does smoke a wee bit since tinkering ...
 
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