17 mins for MOB recovery

[masterofnone]

The clipper crews are highly trained teams and still it takes 17 mins to get the guy back on board, imo if I go over the side with only swmbo as crew, I'm well and truly up **** creek without a paddle, even more so without a lifejacket. Sobering thought is it not.

 

[jetwake]

yes, but you'd never be found sans lifejacket would you???

It makes me think though, why we dont have MOB recovery kit on board. It cant be rocket science to design a net of some sort that fastens to the boom blocks or a winch or something, that can be used to get a person back on deck sharpish. Yet here we are, 2009, and most boats have nothinfg at all that can help us better than a warp rigged up as a catenary.

I guess tha answer is not to fall off.

David, holding on.

 

[snooks]

It makes me think though, why we dont have MOB recovery kit on board.

December's issue of YM has 7 pages on how to get them back on board. There are many MOB recovery devices on the market from the very simple Tri Buckle to any number of life slings, to cradles etc. All are designed to help you recover and retrieve a MOB

So I guess it makes me think..."Why don't you have MOB recovery kit on board?"

I do

 

[Poignard]

yes, but you'd never be found sans lifejacket would you???

It makes me think though, why we dont have MOB recovery kit on board. It cant be rocket science to design a net of some sort that fastens to the boom blocks or a winch or something, that can be used to get a person back on deck sharpish. Yet here we are, 2009, and most boats have nothinfg at all that can help us better than a warp rigged up as a catenary.

I guess tha answer is not to fall off.

David, holding on.

Your idea has already been invented! I have seen it demonstrated some years ago but I can't remember where.
It consists of a triangular net, one corner is fastened to something solid up forward and another corner is fastened aft so that one side of the triangle is stretched taut. A halyard is attached to the remaining corner.

The mob is manouvered into the net so that, as far as possible, he is lying horizontally, parallel to the hull. The halyard is then hauled up using a winch and the mob is rolled up the side of the boat.

I can't recall how the mob is got over the guardrail but that would be a big problem!

 

[duncanmack]

The clipper crews are highly trained teams and still it takes 17 mins to get the guy back on board, imo if I go over the side with only swmbo as crew, I'm well and truly up **** creek without a paddle, even more so without a lifejacket. Sobering thought is it not.

Isn't most of that 17 minutes spent getting back to the MOB? I wouldn't have thought the clippers were the most nimble boats - how long does it take to tack or gybe?

 

[snooks]

Your idea has already been invented! 8< snip >8

I can't recall how the mob is got over the guardrail but that would be a big problem!

That's the Tri Buckle. The idea is that you set it up between two stanchions and the mob rolls between them and under the guard rails

 

[Neil_Y]

Why was he unclipped before getting below?

My set up has always been to have D rings close enough to the hatch that you can clip on as soon as your head is coming out of the companionway and when going below you don't un clip until you are almost at the bottom of the steps. This also means if you slip on the first step on the way down you get stopped by your life line before you hit the cabin floor.

A very lucky bloke.

 

[Poignard]

That's the Tri Buckle. The idea is that you set it up between two stanchions and the mob rolls between them and under the guard rails

Thanks for correcting my failing memory!

Anyway here is the device:

http://www.tribuckle.com/

 

[snooks]

Thanks for correcting my failing memory!

Anyway here is the device:

http://www.tribuckle.com/

Ah, some early Snook photos there, that was going back a bit

 

[csharpatsea]

The clipper crews are highly trained teams and still it takes 17 mins to get the guy back on board...

From the description it seems they were bowling along down wind in 25-30kts with a main preventer set. But a large delay must have been taking 4 circuits to be positioned correctly alongside the MOB using the engine. I doubt the engine power to displacement ratio on one of those clipper yachts is a good as a modern cruising yacht and given an ocean swell you can imagine the situation.

 

[David_Jersey]

I guess tha answer is not to fall off.

Yup. a drowning avoidance technique that works even without a lifejacket

 

[Ubergeekian]

The clipper crews are highly trained teams and still it takes 17 mins to get the guy back on board, imo if I go over the side with only swmbo as crew, I'm well and truly up **** creek without a paddle, even more so without a lifejacket. Sobering thought is it not.

The safest assumption is that if you fall off a yacht you will die, save in a few very unusual circumstances. "Not falling off" is the far, far, far, far, far, far better as a technique than lifejackets, danbuoys, PLBs, recovery slings. Just ask yourself one question. It's two in the morning. It's raining. It's blowing F6. The waves are 10 feet high. You need to go forward to change the foresail (or unjam the roller reefing, if you are all modern). Would you rather go forward with:

a) A 175N lifejacket with light, sprayhood, crotch strap, PLB, and MOB indicator

or

b) a rope tied round your waist?

Incidentally, I have just today ordered two new harnesses for the new boat. Bloody expensive things ... mind you, they do come with lifejackets attached.

 

[snooks]

Incidentally, I have just today ordered two new harnesses for the new boat. Bloody expensive things ... mind you, they do come with lifejackets attached.

Did you get an extra tether?

To leave clipped on by the companionway? or to take as a second if you have to unclip, say to go from one side of the mast over the top to the other? Or some such time that will spring up and bite you on the bum when you haven't thought about it?

You'll also have a spare, which you wouldn't do if you carry a three clip harness

 

[Ubergeekian]

Did you get an extra tether?

To leave clipped on by the companionway? or to take as a second if you have to unclip, say to go from one side of the mast over the top to the other? Or some such time that will spring up and bite you on the bum when you haven't thought about it?

You'll also have a spare, which you wouldn't do if you carry a three clip harness

Yes, I tend to use multiple two-clippers. When I am sailing single-handed I leave one permanently rigged in front of the mast, so I can get there while continuously attached. Haven't bought them yet for the new boat because (a) the prices at JG were nothing special and (b) I need to get one red and one blue - as a start - to match the harnesses!

 

[PilotWolf]

Also worth making sure your lifeline is short enough that you don't go over the side while clipped on. Being dragged alongside is not going to be any fun!

W.