Bigplumbs
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I'm afraid that's just a load of meaningless guff.
Many thanks for the reasoned argument. Amisisti
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I'm afraid that's just a load of meaningless guff.
The Earth may not have been beautiful before Homo arrived to witness it, but beauty is a fragile thing that can easily and often be irrevocably lost. I would love to have been able to leave the City of London and wander among the farms in Knightsbridge, but this is never again going to be possible. The Deben is no longer the jewel it was fifty years ago when you could sail, anchor or swim without risk or disturbance, but this at least is remediable.
Just because you get pleasure from noise does not mean that others enjoy your fun. Most of us have come to appreciate that silence, darkness and peace are positive things. Gulls, at least Herring Gulls, are pretty coarse creatures, though they have their own virtues. Terns, Common, Sandwich, or Little, all locally present for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, will not survive to breed if they are disturbed, and the same goes for what should be numerous shore birds and passerines who are voting with their wings and leaving.
It's not often one sees PWC cited as an example of human progress!
I'm afraid that's just a load of meaningless guff.
The Earth may not have been beautiful before Homo arrived to witness it, but beauty is a fragile thing that can easily and often be irrevocably lost. I would love to have been able to leave the City of London and wander among the farms in Knightsbridge, but this is never again going to be possible. The Deben is no longer the jewel it was fifty years ago when you could sail, anchor or swim without risk or disturbance, but this at least is remediable.
Just because you get pleasure from noise does not mean that others enjoy your fun. Most of us have come to appreciate that silence, darkness and peace are positive things. Gulls, at least Herring Gulls, are pretty coarse creatures, though they have their own virtues. Terns, Common, Sandwich, or Little, all locally present for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, will not survive to breed if they are disturbed, and the same goes for what should be numerous shore birds and passerines who are voting with their wings and leaving.
A problem is that even if people stick to the speed limit it is 8 knots. The Orwell is only 6. At 8 knots a large motorboat will make a great deal of wash even though it is strictly adhering to the limit.you mean there is a speed limit on the deben...................well a lot dont ever stick to it..been passed by many motor boats and a few sailing boats beore now and i wasnt exactly going fast but my boat creates almost no wash compared to many others... went after one millionare a month ago as his wash made a few in dinghys fall over board... he wasnt very happy a 5foot 7 girl drenched with deben salt water gave him a right mouthful... he did leave the tide mill much slower the next day
But your wash would have been insignificant. It is wash that matters not speed per se.I went through the moorings at the Ferry at about 10 kts
on an F18 dingy
Lookee ... I am trying to wind up the old guffers ... now don’t you go spoiling it..But your wash would have been insignificant. It is wash that matters not speed per se.
But your wash would have been insignificant. It is wash that matters not speed per se.
Re speed limits and the law few people realise that the only people who can take action and enforce this are the Police and no one else.
Many thanks for all the reply’s. As usual the discussion morphed a little and many lost sight of the original question which was actually about the Orwell and Stour but I think someone actually answered that part.
Re speed limits and the law few people realise that the only people who can take action and enforce this are the Police and no one else. Except of course the self apointed who think they know. This self appointment usually coming alongside grey hair, grumpyness and a strong belief that they know best. I suspect they are also in the local neighbourhood watch and local speed watch.
Guess that those peoples that you apparently describe with a certain amount of despise are actuall doing a grand job then in assisting the Police and Authorities by being in the Neighourhood Watch plus local Speed Watch ; after all we are all in this together ; for the safety of ALL users Human or Animal or Bird or even Fish whatever
Sleep tight fella
You are sadly mistaken.
If you say so
I did once.....And who else do you think can enforce?