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Semi-D 'Trawler' style boats, 45' or thereabouts...

Scala

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So the slightly expanded Short/Long list, still ignoring any kind of budget so far is
  • Azimut Magellano 43, 50, 53
  • Beneteau Swift 44, 47, 50, 52
  • Cranchi 43 Eco
  • Greenline 45/48 Coupe or Fly
  • Hardy 52DS
  • Marlow 49
  • Absolute Navetta 48
Favourites on paper:
  • Azimut Magellano 43
  • Beneteau Swift 47
  • Greenline 45 / 48 Coupe or Fly
 
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rotrax

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Well, the lazarette is one possible solution. Not really. It's just a style I;d not looked into before. We want a modern look and feel, not trad converted fishing boat (or an actual trawler for that matter)

We have an Island Packet SP Cruiser Motor Sailer.

It suits us very well and does go some way towards your spec.

We have two lockers and two lazarettes in the rear cockpit.

I can - and do - store ten large fenders in the Port lazarette.

Quite scarce in the UK and Europe, but they did make the PY Cruiser, power only, no sails, and these can sometimes be found.

You might find the fuel consumption of interest. We get 4 litres PH under motor at 6.5 KTS average.

Much less using the sails and a bit of motor, 2.5 - 3 litres PH.

Might be a bit slow for you guys 🙂

1,000 mile range with almost 900 litres of fuel.
 

Scala

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We have an Island Packet SP Cruiser Motor Sailer.

It suits us very well and does go some way towards your spec.

We have two lockers and two lazarettes in the rear cockpit.

I can - and do - store ten large fenders in the Port lazarette.

Quite scarce in the UK and Europe, but they did make the PY Cruiser, power only, no sails, and these can sometimes be found.

You might find the fuel consumption of interest. We get 4 litres PH under motor at 6.5 KTS average.

Much less using the sails and a bit of motor, 2.5 - 3 litres PH.

Might be a bit slow for you guys 🙂

1,000 mile range with almost 900 litres of fuel.
Great build quality. I think that at 10kts flat out the PY is too slow for us, that's in D territory really so it's probably not for us, but an interesting suggestion, thank you.

As for fuel - I don't mind about fuel consumption (literally), it's proved to be a tiny proportion of what the boat costs to own and run. Current boat uses 4L/mile at 25kts or 100L/hour which is a comfortable cruising speed, but my fuel costs to date are <2% of my total costs, not least because we're in one of the more "costly" marinas on the Hamble... We don't do long passages, it's very much a long weekend to a week at a time; I could happily double the fuel costs and still not notice it.
 
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longjohnsilver

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We have an Island Packet SP Cruiser Motor Sailer.

It suits us very well and does go some way towards your spec.

We have two lockers and two lazarettes in the rear cockpit.

I can - and do - store ten large fenders in the Port lazarette.

Quite scarce in the UK and Europe, but they did make the PY Cruiser, power only, no sails, and these can sometimes be found.

You might find the fuel consumption of interest. We get 4 litres PH under motor at 6.5 KTS average.

Much less using the sails and a bit of motor, 2.5 - 3 litres PH.

Might be a bit slow for you guys 🙂

1,000 mile range with almost 900 litres of fuel.
Got any pics we can see?
 

burgundyben

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Be way too much money I expect, so new it's not on their website yet. Interesting that he's going down size.
No no. The 50/53/55 were from the very begining. The 50 and 53 were just tge same as the 55 but the cockpit shorter. I only ever saw 1 of each.

Quite right a new one would be a lot of loot. Older ones too it seems.

I took a 55 from Hamble to Oslo and back in 1992. Fabulous.
 

Scala

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No no. The 50/53/55 were from the very begining. The 50 and 53 were just tge same as the 55 but the cockpit shorter. I only ever saw 1 of each.

Quite right a new one would be a lot of loot. Older ones too it seems.

I took a 55 from Hamble to Oslo and back in 1992. Fabulous.
Ah Ok thanks that’s interesting. Perfect long distance cruiser I should think. I’m trying to keep one eye on the possibility that I might actually be able to afford whatever I decide to go for!
 

rotrax

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Got any pics we can see?

No, but I can take one next time we are on the boat.

All you will see will be the top two though - the other eight live 5 across the beam, 3 lengthways with the final two squeezed on top of those 3.

The lid only just closes..................................... :cool:

If you meant pics of the boat, google " Island Packet SP Cruiser for sale " and you will find some American ones. Ours is a 2007 build, launced UK 2008.
 

Scala

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I saw this is a movie and i love it but it also scares me :love:

“The two happiest days in a boat owner’s life: the day you buy the boat, and the day you sell the boat.”

:oops:
Well, I sold my last boat and was seriously unhappy so I bought another one about 6 months later. Happiness restored... (sort of). You do have a point. Ownership is a game for madmen really, I can't explain it.
 

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Having been on a 43 and looking at the pictures on the 50, the lower helm is a joke for what is sold as a long distance cruiser, admittedly the rest of the boat is very nice:D
Yes - i did think it was a bit tiddly too. Impressed with the rest though.
 

Scala

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Having been on a 43 and looking at the pictures on the 50, the lower helm is a joke for what is sold as a long distance cruiser, admittedly the rest of the boat is very nice:D
Serious question, why a “joke”? I’d certainly want a bigger MFD. But it doesn’t look that terrible.

It’s not a Nordhavn or a Fleming agreed.
 
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You are right that Hardy are built by Cockwells, very nicely too....but....err....its nearly a million squid.

Hardy 42 hybrid: Cockwells reinvents classic design as a diesel-electric

You are right about fuel burn. Non issue.

My take on cruising speed is that 13 knots at the right departure time gets you from Yarmouth to Dartmouth without punching tide. So thats the minimum I can live with.
 
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