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Pricing a transat skipper

armchairsailor

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Hello, not been on for a while. I was idly browsing the boat ads and noticed a bargain for sale in New York. This got me to wondering how much it costs to hire a good skipper (I know there are some on here) for a delivery trip from the N American eastern seaboard back to Blighty. I realise it's a piece of string question, but assuming a well-found boat, crewed by hired skipper, owner and one or two others (paid crew?), would it be more cost effective to sail or have it shipped?
 

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Hello, not been on for a while. I was idly browsing the boat ads and noticed a bargain for sale in New York. This got me to wondering how much it costs to hire a good skipper (I know there are some on here) for a delivery trip from the N American eastern seaboard back to Blighty. I realise it's a piece of string question, but assuming a well-found boat, crewed by hired skipper, owner and one or two others (paid crew?), would it be more cost effective to sail or have it shipped?
Is this not a little academic at moment?
 

TernVI

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Flights.
Expenses.
Wild guess £200 a day?
Budget on 'several' days prep and a lot of incidental purchases before departure.

Importing a yacht from the US is not trivial. VAT and duty and RCD compliance issues.
 

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£6k would be my guess on what I've been told. Think shipping might be slightly dearer but far less punishing to the boat.

Is this not a little academic at moment?
AFAIK, professional deliveries have been unaffected, certainly in Europe, as with all other commercial shipping movements.
 

TernVI

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If you ship it, VAT and duty are calculated including the cost of shipping.
Not sure how they'd treat delivery expenses!
But shipping can be a fixed price where delivery might be open ended.
 

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Hello, not been on for a while. I was idly browsing the boat ads and noticed a bargain for sale in New York. This got me to wondering how much it costs to hire a good skipper (I know there are some on here) for a delivery trip from the N American eastern seaboard back to Blighty. I realise it's a piece of string question, but assuming a well-found boat, crewed by hired skipper, owner and one or two others (paid crew?), would it be more cost effective to sail or have it shipped?
I would seriously consider shipping the boat (if you can't sail her over yourself).

These companies have decades of experience and will no doubt be able to advise you regarding cost, import duties, etc...

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What sort of boat ?

Might bbe available and cheap :)

US and UK citizen so hopefully non of that would be a problem but obviously would have to check.

W.
 

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£6k would be my guess on what I've been told. Think shipping might be slightly dearer but far less punishing to the boat.



AFAIK, professional deliveries have been unaffected, certainly in Europe, as with all other commercial shipping movements.
Outside of Europe they have. Certainly from Latin America .....
 

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Outside of Europe they have. Certainly from Latin America .....
+1

A company I deal with has survey and ROV crews at sea - unrelated to my work with them, but in general conversation they‘ve mentioned huge difficulty arranging crew changes, with people stuck on ships or in transit hotels for long periods.

Pete
 

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Purely academic at the mo - fam wants to move back to the UK, and finding a bargain to take over might be a way of getting something suitable for a 14 year old, 6'2" offspring. He's ruled out doing a transat, but I've not...
 

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The main advantage of doing a yacht delivery by sea is that the yacht can be collected and dropped off in any port you wish. Transporting by ship can only be done on very specific routes and set times. It is also generally quite a bit cheaper to sail the yacht back across and as long as the yacht is up to the journey wear and tear will be minimal.

It's also a great opportunity to join the delivery skipper and have a trip of your lifetime!

Pete
 

Koeketiene

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The main advantage of doing a yacht delivery by sea is that the yacht can be collected and dropped off in any port you wish. Transporting by ship can only be done on very specific routes and set times. It is also generally quite a bit cheaper to sail the yacht back across and as long as the yacht is up to the journey wear and tear will be minimal.

It's also a great opportunity to join the delivery skipper and have a trip of your lifetime!

Pete
Does this read like 'if it breaks, it's not our fault' to anyone else?
 

BobnLesley

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...finding a bargain to take over might be a way of getting something suitable for a 14 year old, 6'2" offspring. He's ruled out doing a transat, but I've not...
So if the boat's for a fourteen year old who even now is not interested in ocean passage making, why go to the expense of buying an ocean capable yacht for him? A coastal cruiser bought at this side would be cheaper and prove more suited to his needs.
Of course, if the story of 'it's for the offspring' is how you're selling it to the wife, let me know and I'll delete this post.
 

TernVI

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A returning family can avoid import VAT and duty at least potentially, so the bargains may be worth a look.
DYOR obviously.
 
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