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New RYA training charts - Time zones - rant

slaptop

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Came here because i got mightily confused about the timezones of the RYA ecosystem charts. It's a small world.
Anyhow.
In case others come across this thread...i came across this...Can't vouch for it yet.

RYA Chart Area Time Time Zone Country equivalent
Northern Territory UT 0000 UK
Northern Territory Daylight Saving Time UT + 1 0000 UK - BST - Summer Time
Southern Peninsula Standard Time SPST UT + 1 - 0100 France - French Standard Time
Southern Peninsula Daylight Saving Time SPDST UT + 2 - 0100 France - French Summer Time

So I've included the above in case this link disappears over time.
TIME ZONES | RYA NAVIGATION COURSE
 

bdh198

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What...? A twelve and a half year old thread revived by someone who has been a member for three and a half years, but has only now posted their first message?

Looks very suspicious and I won’t be clicking that link.

edit: “thread” not “threat”!
 
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Skysail

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What...? A twelve and a half year old threat revived by someone who has been a member for three and a half years, but has only now posted their first message?

Looks very suspicious and I won’t be clicking that link.
Don’t worry, the link is quite OK. It is my website!


I don’t know why the thread is active again.
 

Daedelus

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Some years ago I was wanting to go from Cherbourg to Guernsey and was using Reeve Foulkes which relate to tidal times on Cherbourg in UT-0100. (It's time zone -0100 as that is what you apply to the time to get UT). I then wanted to know during what times I could enter the inner harbour and the almanac refers you to HW+/- whatever but then you find that Guernsey works on UT and is referred to HW Jersey. To calculate the best time to leave Cherbourg I referred to the almanac again which said something like 4 1/2 hours before HW Dover (UT). At this point my brain exploded and Mrs D said there, there, wandered off and returned saying I've bought another night at the marina and I've got some nice things for lunch and a decent bottle of wine. (God I love that woman).
After lunch and a cafetiere of coffee I drew up a table into which I put the various times and cracked the whole thing in 10 minutes (which included time for deciding on the table structure.
Now that I teach the subject I have a lot of sympathy and I allow a bit extra time to get it very clear and sorted and it is the bit that students struggle with. However, provided they don't throw their toys out of the pram they generally crack it as the SPDST on the RYA charts corresponds to summer time in France if you are coming from the UK. I was at one conference where a harassed instructor asked if this particular element could be dropped and the RYA head honchos said they sympathised and understood but they needed students to have some idea of working things if they crossed to France from the UK or CI times zones.

I once left the ships clock on UT in summer time and we were all horrendously late as a female member of the crew was well over an hour late in getting ready to come ashore for dinner and said she thought the clock was on local time. (The other crew member was nearly biting my leg he was so hungry).
 

slaptop

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What...? A twelve and a half year old thread revived by someone who has been a member for three and a half years, but has only now posted their first message?

Looks very suspicious and I won’t be clicking that link.

edit: “thread” not “threat”!
What can i say. Everybody's unique. I'm different.
Started sailing in my mid 30's. 1988 Stopped by divorce,
restarted a number of times since.
1995 stopped by marriage to H2O-phobe, stopped again by son's birth, 2002 too non-bendy for darts and dinghys did comp crew sailed OPBs for a couple of years, stopped by my son's chronic illness, 2007 Day skipper lots of day sailing bang! son goes into 5 month coma and i lived in hospitals and rehabilitation hospices for two and a half years, since then work from home because he needs two carers. Had to shelve everything sailing and not think about it. 2014 stopped work. 2016 I'm 62 and determined, restarted sailing again with a fractional outfit, respite (from 24/7 caring) daysails. Wife doesn't support this idea, multiple hospital stays with my son because he is now severely disabled and has no language. Continue to daysail when we're discharged. 2017 I'm now 63 still bumbing along the bottom of sailing. Wife informs me my sailing is unacceptable. (strange agreement with my crew) we live completely separate lives co-caring.
2019 next to him critical in hospital again, get solicitor's emailed letter wanting "mutual divorce" (reason ...I do my own laundry!). I Agree. Have last Xmas with son at home before divorce progresses. January he's critical again, divorce still on pause. February I'm back sleeping next to a ward bed in hospital overlooking Brighton Marina. 5 weeks of beautiful sailing days later we discharge because Covid is encroaching the ward and my son is immunosuppressed. I saw 3 men die on this outing 2 of them only had me with them. LOCKDOWN where everyone in the country joined my constrained isolated world.
Followed by SHIELDING, virus still out their, son still immunnosuppressive. I still can't sail.
Do a distance learning Coastal Skipper.
Hence my first post took 3 years. Hence my 5011 is from 1989. Hence my perennial learner/relearner mode. Hence my general misfitted-ness.
Watch this space.
 
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