James Silver of Rosneath and John Bain designs.

[burgundyben]

In the past there was a Silver Motoryacht Association, a rudimentary website which seems to have gone.

I'm surprised there doesn't seem to be more interest? A Club? A register? Not even a discussion thread (until now).

The're fine boats.

Does Colin Scott here on YBW still have Englander? Anyone else?

This looks a nice project for someone

http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/feature.phtml?id=499707

 

[PeteCooper]

There's a little bit about them here:
http://www.silversmarine.co.uk/galleryone.htm
My link to the old website doesn't work.
As you say they are fine boats - worthy of the term 'Gentleman's Motor Yachts'- and deserve much more interest.

 

[DoubleEnder]

She is indeed. All the structural work has been very nicely done. Needs an interior and domestic systems but is a real beauty

 

[burgundyben]

She is indeed. All the structural work has been very nicely done. Needs an interior and domestic systems but is a real beauty

Any idea of the asking price?

 

[Mad Pad]

Yes,the website has gone,just tried the tel no which rings but no answer,will try the email.
I printed off "The Silver Register" last updated in 1999,with 85 Silvers registered,in 2008.
Had dinner with Colin and Belinda last year in the UK and he still had Englander,then in Corfu.
I don't think Englander was built by Silvers but is a John Bain Design.
Attached a Silver Ormidale I have posted before.
Anyone else have a "Silver" and I will check out the register....and maybe start a new site?
Best
Mad Pad

 

[burgundyben]

I don't think Englander was built by Silvers but is a John Bain Design.
View attachment 63557

I recall that's correct.

Thanks for the post. Lovely boats.

 

[burgundyben]

She is indeed. All the structural work has been very nicely done. Needs an interior and domestic systems but is a real beauty

They are asking £130k, apparently very negotiable.

 

[ccscott49]

Yes, I still have Englander, in Corfu. She is indeed a John Bain, but built in Kent, supervised by John Bain himself, choosing the logs she was sawn from and built, he died before she was finished and I am sure he would have been proud of her, as I'm sure he still would be, I have kept her immaculate. A few of the Ormidale class were also not built by silvers, but by Millers of fife, they tended to have Gardner diesels, as the majority of Silvers built boats did not, a few had Cummins (shots of Scotland) engines, plus a few different types. Englander is not an Ormidale, she is a one off motor sailer, looks a little like an ormidale, until you moor them side by side, then the differences become obvious. As we did in Corfu, with Silver Modesty (MadPads vessel)

 

[DoubleEnder]

Any idea of the asking price?

I'd be happy to tell you a bit more if you PM

 

[KINGFISHER 8]

Always been an admirer but many of them had no outside space ... ie lounging around or dining space other than maybe perched on the stern coachroof!

 

[ccscott49]

Always been an admirer but many of them had no outside space ... ie lounging around or dining space other than maybe perched on the stern coachroof!

What stern coach roof? No stern coach roof on an ormidale and heaps of lounging about room. Most Ormidales originally had a 17 foot launch on the aft deck! Most of the smaller silvers had plenty of room also. Maybe not this one.

 

[Mad Pad]

That's right Colin,we used to have a launch with a Coventry Climax engine to port,and a pulling boat to starboard.
Mad Pad

 

[KINGFISHER 8]

What stern coach roof? No stern coach roof on an ormidale and heaps of lounging about room. Most Ormidales originally had a 17 foot launch on the aft deck! Most of the smaller silvers had plenty of room also. Maybe not this one.

I should rephrase with ... 'the ones that I looked at ...' ... they weren't anything like the size of the ones above!

 

[DownWest]

Just curious here, but were the engines Coventry Victor, rather than Climax? ( CC engines used in fire pumps, F1 racing cars and Hillman Imps) CV made a wonderfull supercharged 2T four cylinder that was used in the RN Fast planing tenders.

 

[Mad Pad]

Down West,not on the boat for a few weeks but then I will check the 1963 survey to verify the launches engine at that time!

 

[Mad Pad]

DownWest I stand corrected,the 13' 6'' motor launch had a Coventry Victor twin cylinder inboard and the pulling dinghy was 12'.
Best from a very wet Montenegro!

 

[DownWest]

Wet & windy here too, MP.
Have a look at Erik's thread on the Fast Planing Launch.

Think it was a CV flat twin in the Fairey Atalanta I rescued from Sardinia. Hope yours worked better!

 

[burgundyben]

Wet & windy here too, MP.
Have a look at Erik's thread on the Fast Planing Launch.

Think it was a CV flat twin in the Fairey Atalanta I rescued from Sardinia. Hope yours worked better!

Rescue of an Atalanta from Sardinia sounds like the makings of a story for Fairey Owners Club 'Fairey News' if you felt like it.

 

[Flynnbarr]

Silver Sonnet a Silver Ormidale is up for sale at Shepperton Marina.
A lovely boat I remember from way back.
One for you to rescue burgundyben!

 

[Mad Pad]

I saw Silver Sonnet about 12 years ago moored on the Thames,a very sorry state.If she hasn't been restored in the meantime I would have thought she would be past it by now...all that sweet water.
How much are they asking?