Deben entrance

[Johnah]

Hi John and Leighb,

Most of pass an hour or two or three before HW, but best to remember where the knolls are.

The photo below was taken yesterday at LW Harwich 0.7m. The buoys are in their 2021 positions.

There will be more to reveal at spring tide in a couple of weeks.

John

 

[englishrobs]

Doesn't worry me, but I'm one of the wimps who only passes this way an hour or two from HW.

for wimps read 'prudent'

 

[Aquaboy]

are good......fishermans cut looks more usable this year.........

 

[LONG_KEELER]

Hi John and Leighb,

Most of pass an hour or two or three before HW, but best to remember where the knolls are.

The photo below was taken yesterday at LW Harwich 0.7m. The buoys are in their 2021 positions.

There will be more to reveal at spring tide in a couple of weeks.

John

View attachment 113472

What a fantastic picture.

Sunrise ?

 

[Johnah]

Taken at sunset LK, the lower tides are at sunrise and pointing into the sun.

John

 

[tillergirl]

I wonder how many years before there is a Debenness and Deben Beach. Not in my lifetime but...

 

[Charlie Boy]

It clearly shows what those groynes did to the shingle build up on the shore

 

[Marmalade]

looks like a bit of a chicane there... don't remember that from last year ..?

 

[Chae_73]

are good......fishermans cut looks more usable this year.........

I walked down at about an hour after low water this morning. Tide was flowing in strongly through the cut, but I still think one would have to be quite brave to attempt it in a keel boat. Not much room for error.

I guess if the flows continue as they are now, that could become the main entrance.

 

[Leighb]

This information from John White was sent out by our club today. Looks useful to know.

Deben Entrance
We moved the buoyage at the Deben entrance yesterday, the bar has moved to the south and to the west. This means that when leaving the river you have no sight of the buoyage until you are well down past the rocks on the west side. There is a beacon on the beach about 100yds past the last of the rocks and there is a shallow patch of about 1mt L W springs when you get to be abreast of that. You may then head for the Mid Kno l buoy passing it on it's correct side. The bar is very shallow from the Knoll Spit until West Knoll at the moment, probably only 0.7mts.
Hope this is all clear but will hopefully have new chartlet in the next week or so.

John White, Harbour Master Felixstowe Ferry 14/04/21

 

[Marmalade]

crikey - just dloaded the chartlet. Looks really narrow this year.

 

[Tomahawk]

Where is the download?

 

[Leighb]

Where is the download?

East coast pilot website, click on Downloads and it is there along with the Ore entrance.

 

[Johnah]

https://eastcoastpilot.com/Deben 2021 chartlet and note v1.pdf

 

[Adios]

https://eastcoastpilot.com/Deben 2021 chartlet and note v1.pdf

"Caution This chart is not to be used for navigation."

 

[Cantata]

"Caution This chart is not to be used for navigation."

Yeah very droll. Standard clause on such documents, daft really. The chartlet is signed off by Trinity House anyway.

 

[Adios]

Yeah very droll. Standard clause on such documents, daft really. The chartlet is signed off by Trinity House anyway.

I doubt it would stand up in court as an arse covering clause as it is de-facto undoubtedly intended and offered to people to be used for navigation. It has no other function.

 

[Cantata]

I doubt it would stand up in court as an arse covering clause as it is de-facto undoubtedly intended and offered to people to be used for navigation. It has no other function.

Possibly not. I seem to recall that Navionics charts include the same clause.....

 

[Adios]

Possibly not. I seem to recall that Navionics charts include the same clause.....

What it might do is put people off trying to take some legal action in the first place. So might be worth the cost of ink. But they really take pains to make the valid point that the bar will have changed by the time they publish it as it changes constantly. Won't be their fault. I look forward to having a low tide explore around there soon

 

[Chae_73]

The chartlet and the repositioned bouys are undoubtedly the best guide to entry or exit, combined with an eye on the depth sounder and a conservative view of the depths against chart datum.

Unless there has been a significant storm since the survey, it's likely to be good enough.