Deben entrance

[Leighb]

I am not sure if this has been posted, but the Deben entrance has changed somewhat, and it is important to have a look at the East Coast Pilot downloads page to get up to date info before leaving or entering.
Details below.
https://eastcoastpilot.com/Deben 2021 chartlet note pic and chartlet v1.pdf

 

[Simi]

There is a goo video on YouTube from a drone at low water it may have changed a little but it does give an excellent view and you can see where you need to be

 

[Leighb]

Main thing is you need to leave the Knoll Spit PHB to Starboard on entry, until the buoys are repositioned.

 

[Tomahawk]

As Captain Barbobsa might say..

The nav marks, they's more like guidelines.. (need a pirate accent)

 

[Bigplumbs]

I am Sure My Friend JohnR will make another Drone Video this year at Low water. If not now the lock down has eased I will nip up and make one myself

 

[Johnah]

Yes am on the case. I took the above photo at LWS when the Harwich tide gauge was showing virtually 0.0m. It was exceptionally low, with the old Walton Castle showing well, but at least the bar was still covered.

When the buoys are re-positioned, then I will take a new video plus photos.

John

 

[Adios]

with the old Walton Castle showing well

Well I never heard of Walton Castle before despite being on exactly that part of beach for a BBQ many times! Now found this impressive mine of information on it though Walton Castle – Roger Pearse

And that led me to learn of the National LIDAR program which could be very interesting National LIDAR Programme - data.gov.uk

 

[Keith 66]

Just had a look on this site, Split geo referencing maps, the fort shows up clearly on the lidar dsm 1m.
, Side by side georeferenced maps viewer - Map images - National Library of Scotland,

 

[Adios]

Just had a look on this site, Split geo referencing maps, the fort shows up clearly on the lidar dsm 1m.
, Side by side georeferenced maps viewer - Map images - National Library of Scotland,

can't see much TBH, the mounds are a bit far off shore aren't they? Great website though, shame it doesn't have the most recent OS maps but still very good

 

[tillergirl]

Definitely NOT too far off shore. You should buy a copy of Suffolk Estuary by W G Arnott. His research of the Deben might be 1950s but it is very accurate. He has a number of hand drawn maps that show the difference in the last 1200 years.

 

[Johnah]

Here is the ancient Walton Castle and as much as I have ever seen at LWS - 0 m Harwich

So best not to come too close to the shore when approaching the Deben entrance.

John

 

[Chalk]

can't see much TBH, the mounds are a bit far off shore aren't they? Great website though, shame it doesn't have the most recent OS maps but still very good

The NLS is a great resource. The old 25" to 1 mile maps particularly. If you want up to date OS, a subscription to the OS is cheap.

 

[nortada]

Yes am on the case. I took the above photo at LWS when the Harwich tide gauge was showing virtually 0.0m. It was exceptionally low, with the old Walton Castle showing well, but at least the bar was still covered.

When the buoys are re-positioned, then I will take a new video plus photos.

John

What photo

Ah #11 - got it?

 

[Johnah]

Hi nortada, I was referring to the photo in the East Coast Pilot link at the top.

Here it is again plus a couple of others. Note how the bar is getting closer to the shore and to the Walton Fort.

The photos were taken early morning on March 31st at LWS when the Harwich tide gauge read almost 0m.

As of yesterday the buoys were still in the 2020 positions but will be repositioned soon.

John

 

[Cantata]

As Johnah says, the buoys will be repositioned soon - should be during next week, we understand.
When they've been done, we will publish the new Trinity House survey chartlet on the ECP website.
In the meantime, the Ore entrance buoys have been laid in their new postions, again following the new survey, and Imray's chartlet from that survey is now available on the ECP website, as usual on the Downloads page.

 

[Adios]

I crewed on a boat coming from London to the Deben (pre smartphone days) and insisted we phone ahead and get the latest directions. The owner who didn't know the way it is there thought I was being a bit over cautious. If I was still in touch I'd send him this photo

 

[Johnah]

The Deben entrance buoys were being repositioned today - 12th April.

John

 

[englishrobs]

I crewed on a boat coming from London to the Deben (pre smartphone days) and insisted we phone ahead and get the latest directions. The owner who didn't know the way it is there thought I was being a bit over cautious. If I was still in touch I'd send him this photo
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Love this river but I always breathe an inner sigh of relief once I’m safely in or out.

 

[johnalison]

Love this river but I always breathe an inner sigh of relief once I’m safely in or out.

Doesn't worry me, but I'm one of the wimps who only passes this way an hour or two from HW.

 

[Leighb]

Doesn't worry me, but I'm one of the wimps who only passes this way an hour or two from HW.

Totally agree!