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et alThere seem to be a significant number of well washed and reasonably educated that are incapable or don't give two hoots as well, just read back though this and similar threads on Scuttlebutt.
Most marinas do not allow live aboards. This will flush them out and cause them big problems no doubt.Premier marina email just received telling me I can no longer come to the boat so lockdown, I think they can deactivate the fobs.
What do live aboards do.
Port solent is quite busy and a few boats going in and out of the marina.
...and some genius (Mayor of London) cut more than half the trains meaning that the key workers have no choice but to crowd if they are going to get to work. Guess what is likely to happen to these key workers in 5-14 days?I understand your sentiment. However, remember that the govt list of 'key workers' is as long as your arm. Financial workers are included and London has no shortage of those. Lots of folks still going to work because their employer expects them to, not because they want to. Clarification on specific key workers needs to come ASAP. I know plenty of people in this category who would like to stay home but are being told 'business as usual'.
If key workers have some sort of ID couldn't they use black cabs (paid by gov) they have screens dividing front/back, got to be safer than tube !!...and some genius (Mayor of London) cut more than half the trains meaning that the key workers have no choice but to crowd if they are going to get to work. Guess what is likely to happen to these key workers in 5-14 days?
This is astonishingly generous of them, but I don't understand why - presumably the boats are still there?Swansea Marina has closed and the Marina fees suspended until re opened.
I don't think you've grasped the numbers and distances involved, don't forget than many of these workers are on relatively low pay and thus are commuting long distances from where they can afford to live (and no outside certain sectors (mostly government and NHS) they will not have obvious ID systems). One thing I would do is open the Royal Parks as temporary car parks as has been done in the past during rail strikes.If key workers have some sort of ID couldn't they use black cabs (paid by gov) they have screens dividing front/back, got to be safer than tube !!
There are very few boatyards or marinas , which officially allow livabords. However many folks just keep their heads down and the managements mind there own business grateful for a little extra security 24/7.My understanding is you need to register with the local council and the marina as a liveaboard. i.e. your berth is classed as a residential berth. (I've seen BT lines going to some). Whether the latter includes any increment fees is largely irrelevant. But if you have liveaboard status on a residential berth then, absolutely, they have every right to be aboard and yes, the marina as their effective landlord has an obligation towards them in accordance with any contractual agreement. What next, throw renters out of their accommodation too? Sounds like petty sour grapes to me.
Fine to a point, but as the virus allegedly lingers for up to 72 hours on solid surfaces it doesn't cure the problem, it merely takes one infected worker to potentially infect everyone using the cab after them.If key workers have some sort of ID couldn't they use black cabs (paid by gov) they have screens dividing front/back, got to be safer than tube !!
I can only confirm your views.Herd immunity.
That’s the correct approach btw , not total isolation as it’s OUT now and we all need to get naturally acquired antibodies against it until a vaccine is ready .
But at a PACE THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS CAN COPE ....with the ones that can’t cope with the disease and get ill.
Most hospitalised will recover others with pre existing co morbidity factors eg respiratory diseases will unfortunately die in the interim period .
So what you need ( in the absence of a vaccine ) is long term ( chronic ) looooow level exposure throughout the “ herd “ so it naturally self immunises ....just like any other influenza virus or any virus for that matter .
I worked many moons ago in the Dept of oral immunology @ Guys
As to survive one needs to get immunity most will get it without knowing ( subclinical ) some a slight flue ...normal flue and un
fortunately folks with underlying health conditions as said will not survive .Nothing new there with influenza.
It’s an airborne infection ( despite all this hand washing crap being peddled )
So avoid closed spaces , keep the house ventilated , avoid crowds etc .
You inhale it ....all virus first followed secondary by direct exchange of infected body fluids .Lets forget the 2nd ....so we are left with straight inhalation .
This whole current strategy is about preventing overwhelming of the health care systems, by protecting the un immunised vulnerable folks .
So some healthy self employed guys like Volvo Paul or DIY ers working in relative isolation on there boats assuming they have not got any , or live around anybody with morbidity co factors should be OK and won’t alter the outcomes.
Sorry to hear that VP. Do you have a solution on getting drives to you during this lock down? I dont even have a pallet. I have two, possibly 4 drives needing a service with new seals and one needing a new clutch. (the oil smelt really burnt when draining)Yesterday was my last day for a while , i was at Shamrock quay , was told the place was closing , Hythe locked the doors as I spoke to them mid afternoon , Endeavour quay closed , Port Solent still making yard operations but I’d guess by the end of this week that will cease , as I stay on a boat in PS it’s a great area as to wether I can get access to it .
Salterns closed yesterday , I’d assume that MDL will follow suit and close everywhere , a big company cannot have different rules.
stay safe everyone I’m sure your houses and gardens will have never looked so good , I feel for boat owners having their pleasure taken away by this situation , it’s just starting to get nice outside .
no doubt when we are back up and running there will be a mad rush to get more engines and drives serviced , antifouled and boats polished up ready .