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Boats not allowed under hammersmith bridge

Outinthedinghy

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I like this bit

"but there may be a more easily-constructed temporary footbridge than has previously been proposed."

Would love to see the plans for that !

Sounds good.

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The school kids would love it :)
 

Portland Billy

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I wonder if they've discussed pile driven Jacks with RSJs at 100 ft intervals to support the existing structure.
Perhaps a good temporary measure and at least should hold good for pedestrians and cyclists. Also for river traffic.
 

Newbroom

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Any new news on being able to pass under the bridge. Is there any more escorted passages being planned.
Dave
 

AuntyRinum

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I wonder if they've discussed pile driven Jacks with RSJs at 100 ft intervals to support the existing structure.
Perhaps a good temporary measure and at least should hold good for pedestrians and cyclists. Also for river traffic.
The problem seems to be that the existing structure is cast iron and minute cracks are appearing. The concern is that the cast iron will shatter.
Any temporary measures would need to support the whole of the deck. A permanent fix would require a steel (or similar) sandwich above and below the cast iron fully supported. It would probably be cheaper to demolish and build a new structure.
 

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I've got an idea. Knock the bloody thing down. No-one can pass under it, and no one can cross it. Not being there at all would at least allow river passage, so a better situation than currently exists.

Maybe build a new one, and when they do they could perhaps make it a bit higher.

I don't get this 'historic' business. It's a bridge, it's served us well for over 100 years and is time to go. It's not like we don't have any other historic buildings/landmarks in London to look at.
 

The Glassman

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Quite so, CLB. Take it down and 'build back better' (sorry) -hopefully not a 'Boris Bridge' with all the attendant trees etc., but a good, wide, well-designed modern bridge to help with the bottlenecks that plague attempts to cross the river around there.
 

Outinthedinghy

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It's a perfect opportunity to showcase British talent.

Take the bridge apart, haul the parts downriver and reconstruct it in the Gothic section of the upcoming Swanscombe peninsula theme park down near Dartford then get a proper UK engineering company to design and build a new bridge. A quality item to show that this country is a quality country with an eye for quality.

Boats, buses, cars, cyclists and pedestrians NEED to be able to pass under or over the bridge safely. Maybe even the occasional electric paraglider. Proper traffic management and priorities, in line with 21st century (yes!!) ideals and using available technology.

Stop living in the past!

Parts made in China, obviously..

It's too much of a good opportunity to waste.

Yes it's quite nice looking if a little bit scary and also yes it is too low.

Get it gone asap.
 
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plumbob

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It's a perfect opportunity to showcase British talent.

Take the bridge apart, haul the parts downriver and reconstruct it in the Gothic section of the upcoming Swanscombe peninsula theme park down near Dartford then get a proper UK engineering company to design and build a new bridge. A quality item to show that this country is a quality country with an eye for quality.

Boats, buses, cars, cyclists and pedestrians NEED to be able to pass under or over the bridge safely. Maybe even the occasional electric paraglider. Proper traffic management and priorities, in line with 21st century (yes!!) ideals and using available technology.

Stop living in the past!

Parts made in China, obviously..

It's too much of a good opportunity to waste.

Yes it's quite nice looking if a little bit scary and also yes it is too low.

Get it gone asap.
Can't do it.....blown all the money on HS2 and Crossrail 😵
 

Boathook

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I've got an idea. Knock the bloody thing down. No-one can pass under it, and no one can cross it. Not being there at all would at least allow river passage, so a better situation than currently exists.

Maybe build a new one, and when they do they could perhaps make it a bit higher.

I don't get this 'historic' business. It's a bridge, it's served us well for over 100 years and is time to go. It's not like we don't have any other historic buildings/landmarks in London to look at.
Change the swing to a bridge and you will see what we possibly end up with and the cost.

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Bran

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Nobody heard anything or know anything
I was at Molesey lock last Sunday, spoke to the skipper bringing a barge up to to Shepperton from the tideway, too big for the canals. I asked how he got there, he said he came through Hammersmith on a booked passage that weekend and that they were making regular bookings. Unfortunately I did not ask for any details.
 

oldgit

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It's a perfect opportunity to showcase British talent.

Take the bridge apart, haul the parts downriver and reconstruct it in the Gothic section of the upcoming Swanscombe peninsula theme park down near Dartford then get a proper UK engineering company to design and build a new bridge. A quality item to show that this country is a quality country with an eye for quality.

Boats, buses, cars, cyclists and pedestrians NEED to be able to pass under or over the bridge safely. Maybe even the occasional electric paraglider. Proper traffic management and priorities, in line with 21st century (yes!!) ideals and using available technology.

Stop living in the past!

Parts made in China, obviously..

It's too much of a good opportunity to waste.

Yes it's quite nice looking if a little bit scary and also yes it is too low.

Get it gone asap.
As a totally unbiased observer the bridge should have minimum airdraft of 4m at HWS.;)
 

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From the letter from SoS Tpt to Mayor of London and Tfl:

{The Mayor] Commits to set aside at least £75m within the H2 Funding Period to continue the delivery of healthy streets and active travel programmes including funding for the London Boroughs under the local implementation plan process. Within this funding, TfL will prioritise the urgent delivery and operation of a temporary walking and cycle ferry as a replacement crossing for local communities affected by the closure of Hammersmith Bridge. For the avoidance of doubt these commitments are separate to any further funding to be allocated from the DfT Emergency Active Travel Fund for which bids totalling £20m are currently submitted.

and:

Commits to make a fixed contribution of £4m during the H2 Funding Period for the stabilisation and repair of Hammersmith Bridge as part of the programme led by the Task Force for the Hammersmith Bridge.

Note: H2 Funding Pd is mid October 2020 to late March 2021
 

PeterBoater

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"a fixed contribution of £4m during the H2 Funding Period for the stabilisation and repair of Hammersmith Bridge "

It needs £140m!
 

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Today's update: Hammersmith Bridge Taskforce meeting, 13 November 2020

This bit is of note:
".... the taskforce discussed the potential for further controlled river passages to enable the planned movement of vessels at pre-designated times, based on detailed risk assessments.  Planned dates are in discussion for later in November and early December and details on these will be publicised as soon as possible. "
 

oldgit

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Today's update: Hammersmith Bridge Taskforce meeting, 13 November 2020

This bit is of note:
".... the taskforce discussed the potential for further controlled river passages to enable the planned movement of vessels at pre-designated times, based on detailed risk assessments.  Planned dates are in discussion for later in November and early December and details on these will be publicised as soon as possible. "

Be nice is us visitors could be allowed under next summer , have no problem at all with booking a slot.
Would be useful if a couple of waiting moorings could be provided. A bouy or two would be fine .
 
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