BBC Report on Abandoned Boats

[Greemble]

Really?
Are they not both difficult materials (very much the same) and both unweildy to deal with at the end of their useful life?

Exactly my point - they are both a problem. One problem doesn't negate another - it just adds to it.

As pointed out, the discussion here is about boats.
Not wind turbines, storage tanks, loft insulation, crash helmets or Reliant Robins.

whataboutery
/ˌwɒtəˈbaʊtəri/
noun
BRITISH

1. the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue.
   "all too often, well-intentioned debate descends into whataboutery"

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[dgadee]

As pointed out, the discussion here is about boats.
Not wind turbines, storage tanks, loft insulation, crash helmets or Reliant Robins.

whataboutery
/ˌwɒtəˈbaʊtəri/
noun
BRITISH

1. the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue.
   "all too often, well-intentioned debate descends into whataboutery"

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You are a discussion tyrant. We will discuss what we want here if we believe it to be relevant. Turbine blades are relevant.

 

[penfold]

People aren't abandoning surplus turbine blades in remote Cornish creeks, causing harbour boards/councils/whoever to make efforts to dispose of them. It's really not relevant other than the end point(grinding/chopping up then landfill or being mixed into concrete or whatever) potentially having synergy.

 

[dgadee]

People aren't abandoning surplus turbine blades in remote Cornish creeks, causing harbour boards/councils/whoever to make efforts to dispose of them. It's really not relevant other than the end point(grinding/chopping up then landfill or being mixed into concrete or whatever) potentially having synergy.

And that end point isn't relevant? Some might argue that it is (me, for example).

 

[savageseadog]

BLM.............Boat Lives Matter

 

[penfold]

In terms of the thread it is irrelevant, as it's about manky auld boats rotting up creeks in the land of the tiddy oggy, not wind turbines.

And that end point isn't relevant? Some might argue that it is (me, for example).

 

[dgadee]

In terms of the thread it is irrelevant, as it's about manky auld boats rotting up creeks in the land of the tiddy oggy, not wind turbines.

Sorry, don't agree. Best thing to do with old boat hulls is dig a hole and bury them. Learn from the industry most affected.

 

[penfold]

Good-oh, I disagree too; we agree on something! What fun!

 

[dgadee]

Good-oh, I disagree too; we agree on something! What fun!

If burying is good enough for Atomkraft I'm sure it'll work for grp.

 

[sighmoon]

In some places they've been sunk to make artificial reefs.
Old Boats Sunk To Create Artificial Reef - News Break

An optimist in Lochaline has stuck a for sale sign and his phone number on a boat with a big hole in one side.

 

[dgadee]

In some places they've been sunk to make artificial reefs.
Old Boats Sunk To Create Artificial Reef - News Break

An optimist in Lochaline has stuck a for sale sign and his phone number on a boat with a big hole in one side.

Sinking them could cause the grp to break up and become plastic pollution in the sea.

 

[fisherman]

Here's one that's been around the Helford for years, perhaps the owner has died. It used to be at Gear bridge, now in Polweveral creek.

 

[fisherman]

I posted about it in 2004
Helford Time Bandits

 

[penfold]

A collection of flotsam that's agglomerated into something that almost, but not quite, totally fails to look like a boat.

 

[Caraway]

Exactly my point - they are both a problem. One problem doesn't negate another - it just adds to it.

But the solution to the greater problem (turbine blades) may offer a spin-off useful to the lesser problem (dead boats).
Why don't you want to widen the discussion in order to possibly discover an answer to the original question?

 

[Caraway]

As pointed out, the discussion here is about boats.
Not wind turbines, storage tanks, loft insulation, crash helmets or Reliant Robins.

whataboutery

But the solution to the greater problem (turbine blades) may offer a spin-off useful to the lesser problem (dead boats).
Why don't you want to widen the discussion in order to possibly discover an answer to the original question? One thing for certain is that considering expired grp boats on their will not feature in the regulations that government decide to promote. So get into the wider discussion to avoid disappointment when the solution doesn't suit the boating fraternity.

 

[Capt Popeye]

Well i rather like seeing Old and forlorn boats just laid up, awaiting the time that they just rot away, as we used to do, many moons ago; they add History and Colour to what might be a boring scene

Them rotting hulks show what boat designs and build quality there was, years ago; them have style plus history

Compare that scene with a Local Marina, full of crappy cratft , mainly all GRP or Plastic, looking like the Jelly Moulders have been at it again; no one I am sure will be posting photos of such craft in say, 50 years time and giving them craft a second glance ; no we really need them craft of yesteryear , left silently and awaiting a dignified departure , all in their own good time.

 

[fisherman]

https://imgur.com/l4HffkX

 

[Capt Popeye]

https://imgur.com/l4HffkX

Thank you Mr Fisherman for that most apt photograph, might say that the intricant build structure of that vessel draws one in to wonder about its construction and the fellas who built it

At the same time marvelling about just how strong the construction is to withstand such abuse and neglect over many year

Cannot imagine that the decaying vessel built in GRP or Plastic would ever have such appeal

 

[Pye_End]

Why don't you want to widen the discussion in order to possibly discover an answer to the original question?

You misrepresent my point, originally made in post 41.