Alicatt
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Just had my first Pfizer shot today at 13:00 can't access my records as I don't have a pass/ID card yet 
? International Travel And a Covid Passport ?
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Ric
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Well you have needed a yellow fever certificate for many years in order to enter a lot of countries so don't see the difference. And if it is a an app then it will be a lot more fraud-proof. You can buy fake yellow fever certificates easily in countries like Nigeria and Pakistan, so you can be sure they will be selling fake covid certificates soon if it is just a piece of paper.
Barbaria
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I was primarily thinking of Europe in my post, and even here they have big difficulties in finding a format they can agree on, let alone the world! And now there is a question about people that have taken vaccines not approved in the EU, are they to be “approved“ in the app?
I haven never showed any vaccine certification anywhere I have been, but I have not been everywhere unfortunately.
As a traveler it has been up to me to have the recommended vaccinations for the country I have traveled to.
Do you mean that people without a smartphone can’t travel?
nortada
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For what it is worth,Just had my first Pfizer shot today at 13:00 can't access my records as I don't have a pass/ID card yet
When we get our first jab, we are given a card, identifying the vaccine used.
On the back of the card, there are our our personal details, batch number of jab given and appointment date for second jab.
Some advice is saying that this will be sufficient to confirm you are vaccinated - I am a bit sceptical. We also have an health service app, which it is understood will provide you with a e-Covid Passport.
The single shot Johnson jab has just been introduced into the problem so hopefully, it will all become clearer in the near future.
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bendyone
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The NHS app ( as well as on a PC) will show all the vaccines you have had. Shows both of mine AZ ones from June and July last year.
Alicatt
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Yeah I have a card delineating some of those details with also the next appointment for my second jab, just my name, batch number, time and date, no other details.
My wife can go into her medical records and see everything from when she was born to now.
Not having an ID card yet did cause a small hiccup in the system, but all that meant was they had to enter my details manually rather than scan an ID card, but my medical records were there and accessible to the medical staff once they were in.
Got maybe another month or so to wait before I get my ID card as it is grinding through the system ever so slowly, should have had it in January but a mix-up in the local govt. not sending in the right papers caused that to fail and as by then Brexit had finally happened they would not reopen the case and they transferred me over to the "M" card for UK persons in Belgium that fall under the withdrawal Agreement.
Alicatt
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What NHS App is this? I have tried the NHS app and it says that as I am Scottish it will not work, I am still currently registered with a doctor in Scotland.
bendyone
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Alicatt
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yeah does not work for Scots people
st599
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The EU have agreed a format and have agreed to interface with the IATA system, it will be up to areas/countries as to what is acceptable initially until the WHO issue a list - same as every other jab.
I have a Yellow Fever Cert issued by Tanzania as the NHS wouldn't give me the jab. Unfortunately the border medical officer disagreed with the NHS and I couldn't return to Malawi as I'd been in Tanzania. $50 well spent - at least I had my own needles with me.
It will be up to the destination as to what's acceptable - the IATA travel pass which airlines are banking on seems to require a smartphone with digital certificate listing the jabs/tests issued by the country of origin.
The UK is dishing those out - though the name field was blank so I had to fill it in myself, hardly foolproof.
Davy_S
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No, you will be able to get a printed copy later in the month by ringing a number, possibly 119 off the top of my head, you will have to check that.
Barbaria
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It surprises me the EU will interface with a cartel like IATA, where did you get that information?
Are you sure you don’t mean ICAO?
IATA are developing an app, but as far as I know it is totally separate from the EU initiative.
As for the yellow fever WHO does not regard United Republic of Tanzania or Malawi as a risk area and do not recommend vaccines if you have not been in a country on the risk list in the link above. But of course the rules can change fast, and some even makes their own rules at discretion. I remember traveling by car to Russia some years ago, a five dollar bill in the passport would get you in the fast lane
st599
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As for the yellow fever WHO does not regard United Republic of Tanzania or Malawi as a risk area and do not recommend vaccines if you have not been in a country on the risk list in the link above. But of course the rules can change fast, and some even makes their own rules at discretion. I remember traveling by car to Russia some years ago, a five dollar bill in the passport would get you in the fast lane
When you've left Malawi, can't enter Tanzania and are stuck between the border posts, the WHO don't really help. First time I was in Russia, you needed a stock of $10 bills as about once per day, they'd come to check your passport and if there were no bill in it, there'd be a problem with the passport that required you to be arrested and escorted back to a police station. (A problem of paying coppers $8k per annum in a city as expensive to live in as London or New York). That had all but vanished by my most recent trip.
roblpm
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Yes i just had my second and asked if I would get a card. The answer is no. Will need to obtain proof from my GP apparently. They are going to be very busy.................. Bonkers! Another Nicola triumph.
I need to check the stats. Nicola has had a great pandemic but I'm not sure the outcomes are any better and stuff like this is definitely worse than England. In fact her main objective has been doing stuff differently to England. I am in favour of Scottish Indy but I have had enough of her!
Graham376
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We were stuck in Mozambique on one visit, a cholera outbreak had been declared and we couldn't cross into Rhodesia (as it was then) without booster. Only place with vaccine was Beira port doctor, who was very accommodating - for a price.
Davy_S
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People who have had both jabs will be able to use the NHS app as a vaccine passport for overseas travel from Monday. Those who do not use smartphones can phone 119 for a paper letter confirming their vaccine status but have been urged not to ask their GP. The government hopes the app will be able to show vaccination status in time for people to be able to use it when the ban on foreign travel is lifted on May 17. The app will not show Covid test results but it is hoped that they will be incorporated by the time domestic Covid status certification is due to be introduced for mass events on June 21. The NHS app was set up to allow people to book appointments and repeat prescriptions online and allows people to see their full medical records. NHS Digital, the health service’s technology unit, has been working on tweaking the app so that vaccine data is pulled out of medical records and shown on a separate screen that can be presented to officials, The Times reported. People must register to use the app and the government is advising people to do so at least two weeks before they travel abroad. As an alternative they can apply for a paper letter but this is available only five days after the second dose and will take a further five days to arrive. The government website says: “From May 17, you may be able to show your Covid-19 vaccination status as proof of your status when travelling abroad to some countries or territories. “You can access your Covid-19 vaccination status through the free NHS App from May 17. You can access the app through mobile devices such as a smartphone or by tablet. Proof of your Covid-19 vaccination status will be shown within the NHS App. We recommend you register with the app before booking international travel.” It adds: “Demonstrating your Covid-19 vaccination status allows you to show others that you’ve had a full course of the Covid-19 vaccine when travelling abroad to some countries or territories. A full course is currently two doses of any approved vaccine.” However, it says: “There are not many countries that currently accept proof of vaccination. So for the time being most people will still need to follow other rules when travelling abroad – like getting a negative pre-departure test.” The advice adds: “If you do not have access to a smartphone and know that the country you are travelling to requires Covid-19 vaccination status, you can call the NHS helpline on 119 from 17 May and ask for a letter to be posted to you. This must be at least 5 days after you’ve completed your course of the vaccine. We expect the letter to take up to 5 days to reach you. “Do not contact your GP surgery about your Covid-19 vaccination status. GPs cannot provide letters showing your Covid-19 vaccination status.” Source -travelweekly.co.uk
roblpm
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Not in Scotland - We are doomed................!
Davy_S
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Sorry about that!
chrisrjcox
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Like it or not, it is becoming increasingly apparent that we may have to have Covid Passport if we wish to travel between countries.
My thoughts are about those of us who are getting jabbed in countries other than our ‘home’ country (the country that issued our passport).
We are in this position as British Passport holders, who are getting the AstraZeneca (AZ) jabs in Portugal.
I understand that following the second jab we will be able to get an e-Covid Passport that we can download and print off. Alternatively, if we apply to the local health centre, they will provide a hardcopy passport.
Because there are 12 weeks between jabs and it is anticipated that international travel will soon resume, some are thinking of getting their first jab abroad but then flying back to the UK for their second and possibly third booster jab in the autumn. Question, how will they get a Covid Passport for future travel
To get around this, we intend to remain in Portugal and travel on a Portuguese Covid Passport.
Looking to the longer term, I understand one idea in the UK is for details of jabs to be incorporated into the NHS app and added as biometric details to or e-passports. Wonder how we will get our ‘foreign’ Covid Passport details added to our UK passports.
I suppose one solution would be to have a second course of jabs in the U.K. but this would seem a bit drastic and would it be safe
My final thought is that given a couple of years, as a better and ‘better handle’ on Covid, is gained the medical passport issue may just fade away. We don’t get passport to prove that we are up to date with flu jabs etc.
Any/all thoughts appreciated.?
Your continued participation and acceptance of this will be the downfall for us all.
chrisrjcox
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And while we accept this, it will become the same as the clear plastic bag rubbish at the airport.
