??For Those Stuck In the EU Beyond the 90 day Schengen Limit.??

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Didn't hurt a bit and no side effects not even a headache happy to say , just taken a aspin for a week just incase .
This is the service you get when you know how to work around things :)
Next one 23 May .........
 
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There are similar AIRE group a for all countries I believe.

Not aware of one for Portugal. If so, can anyone please advise Portugal contact details ❓


There may not have been a AIRE group in Portugal .but you did read the information , regarding the EU withdrawal agreement rules for all EU countries unless there a different one.
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Yes, I thank you for the AIRE information and I understand that that you were unable to provide any information on AIRE in Portugal. You are in Greece so why should you❓ This thread is directed more to people in Portugal. Possibly I should have included Portugal in the title.

As to the second bit of your message; currently, the EU is anything united so your assumption that the EU could decide on the policy on who can enter Portugal (or any other EU country) is flawed. As we have seen, despite Schengen, EU countries, as could be anticipated, close their borders at will.

Access to and remaining in a Schengen zone country is under national (not EU) jurisdiction.

Currently EU unity appears to be under stress but possibly that is something to discuss in Current Affairs; not here?✅

Hope this clears up any possible confusion.
 
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Yes, I thank you for the AIRE information and I understand that that you were unable to provide any information on AIRE in Portugal. You are in Greece so why should you❓ This thread is directed more to people in Portugal. Possibly I should have included Portugal in the title.

As to the second bit of your message; currently, the EU is anything united so your assumption that the EU could decide on the policy on who can enter Portugal (or any other EU country) is flawed. As we have seen, despite Schengen, EU countries, as could be anticipated, close their borders at will.

Access to and remaining in a Schengen zone country is under national (not EU) jurisdiction.

Currently EU unity appears to be under stress but possibly that is something to discuss in Current Affairs; not here?✅

Hope this clears up any possible confusion.
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I believe the withdrawal agreement was between Uk and Northern Ireland ,from the European Union not Portugal.. Same rules for brits with all remaining states .
 
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The EU-UK Withdrawal Agreement
Learn about the results of past negotiations: the Withdrawal Agreement with its chapters on Citizens’ Rights and the Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland.
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The Withdrawal Agreement concluded between the European Union and the United Kingdom establishes the terms of the United Kingdom's orderly withdrawal from the EU, in accordance with Article 50 of the Treaty of the European Union.
The Withdrawal Agreement entered into force on 1 February 2020, after having been agreed on 17 October 2019. It consists amongst others of a Protocol on Ireland and Northern Ireland.
The Withdrawal Agreement (full legal text)
12 November 2019
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The Withdrawal Agreement – Questions & Answers
24 January 2020
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The EU-UK Withdrawal Agreement explained (slides)
06 July 2020
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Political declaration setting out the framework for the future relationship between the European Union and the United Kingdom
12 November 2019
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What the Withdrawal Agreement covers
  • Common provisions: setting out standard clauses for the proper understanding and operation of the Withdrawal Agreement.
  • Citizens' rights: protecting the life choices of more than 4 million EU citizens in the United Kingdom, and over 1 million United Kingdom nationals in EU countries, safeguarding their right to stay and ensuring that they can continue to contribute to their communities.
  • Separation issues:ensured a smooth winding-down and enabled an orderly withdrawal of the United Kingdom, including, amongst others:
    • enabled goods placed on the market before the end of the transition under EU rules to continue to their destination
    • protects existing intellectual property rights including geographical indications
    • winded down on-going procedures related to police and judicial cooperation in criminal matters and other administrative and judicial procedures
    • addressed the use and protection of data and information exchanged before the end of the transition period
    • addressed issues related to Euratom
  • A transition period (1 February – 31 December 2020) during which the EU treated the United Kingdom as if it were a Member State, with the exception of participation in the EU institutions and governance structures. The EU and the United Kingdom used these months to negotiate the EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement.
  • The financial settlement: ensuring that the United Kingdom and the EU honour all financial obligations undertaken while the United Kingdom was a member of the EU.
  • The overall governance structure of the Withdrawal Agreement: ensuring the effective management, implementation and enforcement of the agreement, including appropriate dispute settlement mechanisms.
  • Ireland: a legally-operative solution that avoids a hard border on the island of Ireland, protects the all-island economy and the Good Friday (Belfast) Agreement in all its dimensions, and safeguards the integrity of the EU Single Market.
  • Cyprus: a protocol on the Sovereign Base Areas (SBA) in Cyprus, protecting the interests of Cypriots who live and work in the Sovereign Base Areas following the United Kingdom's withdrawal from the EU.
  • Gibraltar: a Protocol on Gibraltar, facilitating close cooperation between Spain and the United Kingdom in respect of Gibraltar on the implementation of citizens' rights within the Withdrawal Agreement. The Protocol also concerns administrative cooperation between appropriate authorities in a number of policy areas.
The implementation of the Withdrawal Agreement requires measures both at EU and at Member State level.


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rtboss1 said:
The EU-UK Withdrawal Agreement
Learn about the results of past negotiations: the Withdrawal Agreement with its chapters on Citizens’ Rights and the Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland.
PAGE CONTENTS
The Withdrawal Agreement concluded between the European Union and the United Kingdom establishes the terms of the United Kingdom's orderly withdrawal from the EU, in accordance with Article 50 of the Treaty of the European Union.
The Withdrawal Agreement entered into force on 1 February 2020, after having been agreed on 17 October 2019. It consists amongst others of a Protocol on Ireland and Northern Ireland.
The Withdrawal Agreement (full legal text)
12 November 2019
English
Download
Available languages (23)
The Withdrawal Agreement – Questions & Answers
24 January 2020
English
Download
Available languages (23)
The EU-UK Withdrawal Agreement explained (slides)
06 July 2020
English (1.6 MB - PDF)
DownloadPDF - 1.6 MB
Political declaration setting out the framework for the future relationship between the European Union and the United Kingdom
12 November 2019
English
Download
Available languages (23)
What the Withdrawal Agreement covers
  • Common provisions: setting out standard clauses for the proper understanding and operation of the Withdrawal Agreement.
  • Citizens' rights: protecting the life choices of more than 4 million EU citizens in the United Kingdom, and over 1 million United Kingdom nationals in EU countries, safeguarding their right to stay and ensuring that they can continue to contribute to their communities.
  • Separation issues:ensured a smooth winding-down and enabled an orderly withdrawal of the United Kingdom, including, amongst others:
    • enabled goods placed on the market before the end of the transition under EU rules to continue to their destination
    • protects existing intellectual property rights including geographical indications
    • winded down on-going procedures related to police and judicial cooperation in criminal matters and other administrative and judicial procedures
    • addressed the use and protection of data and information exchanged before the end of the transition period
    • addressed issues related to Euratom
  • A transition period (1 February – 31 December 2020) during which the EU treated the United Kingdom as if it were a Member State, with the exception of participation in the EU institutions and governance structures. The EU and the United Kingdom used these months to negotiate the EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement.
  • The financial settlement: ensuring that the United Kingdom and the EU honour all financial obligations undertaken while the United Kingdom was a member of the EU.
  • The overall governance structure of the Withdrawal Agreement: ensuring the effective management, implementation and enforcement of the agreement, including appropriate dispute settlement mechanisms.
  • Ireland: a legally-operative solution that avoids a hard border on the island of Ireland, protects the all-island economy and the Good Friday (Belfast) Agreement in all its dimensions, and safeguards the integrity of the EU Single Market.
  • Cyprus: a protocol on the Sovereign Base Areas (SBA) in Cyprus, protecting the interests of Cypriots who live and work in the Sovereign Base Areas following the United Kingdom's withdrawal from the EU.
  • Gibraltar: a Protocol on Gibraltar, facilitating close cooperation between Spain and the United Kingdom in respect of Gibraltar on the implementation of citizens' rights within the Withdrawal Agreement. The Protocol also concerns administrative cooperation between appropriate authorities in a number of policy areas.
The implementation of the Withdrawal Agreement requires measures both at EU and at Member State level.


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Sorry, don't see its relevance of the above to this subject so I haven't bothered to read it.

The aim of this thread was to provide those Brits, who may be stuck in Portugal, some hopefully, reassuring information.

Think it probably has achieved its aim. ✅ (y)
 
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Sorry, don't see its relevance of the above to this subject so I haven't bothered to read it.

The aim of this thread was to provide those Brits, who may be stuck in Portugal, some hopefully reassuring information.

Think it probably has achieved its aim. ✅ (y)
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What is the position of a UK registered car that remains within the EU/Schengen area after 1st April along with its EU resident owner?
 
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nortada said:
Sorry, don't see its relevance of the above to this subject so I haven't bothered to read it.

The aim of this thread was to provide those Brits, who may be stuck in Portugal, some hopefully reassuring information.

Think it probably has achieved its aim. ✅ (y)
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You should become a politician then, for most of those in our government didn't bother to read it either and as you, don't understand its meaning .
 
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You should become a politician then, for most of those in our government didn't bother to read it either and as you, don't understand its meaning .
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Possibly true but I know total irrelevance when I see it.

In keeping with the concept of Liveaboard Link this is offering information to some stuck in Portugal, rather than disusing the esoteric of the WA.

Believe there are other sub forums for this. ;)
 
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Possibly true but I know total irrelevance when I see it.

In keeping with the concept of Liveaboard Link this is offering information to some stuck in Portugal, rather than disusing the esoteric of the WA.

Believe there are other sub forums for this. ;)
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You are conveniently missing the point ,the Withdrawal Agreement is the same for all Union states .The rule are the same ,If you were in the state legal before 01 01 2021 .you can stay over the 90 days .
Its not difficult to understand .

And I do understand the the concept of the liveaboard link . I was one of its founder members .
 
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