macneish
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Has anyone had any experience with this type of boat? We are thinking of buying for short-handed coastal cruising... I haven't been able to find any write-ups so far.
Kalik 30
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Jonny_H
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We looked at a Kalik 40 not too long ago when buying our boat.
The 30 was designed by Jac de Ridder of Holland, the hulls moulded in the far east - Malaysia (or somewhere very close to there I believe). Build quality is reportedly quite good - with excellent interior joinery.
However, as they are quite unknown they tend to be difficult to sell and second hand prices much lower as a result (according to the broker we spoke to).
So I guess my answer would be - if you want to keep it for a long time and it meets all your criteria - then go for it.
If you intend to re-sell it within a relatively short space of time think carefully as it could take a while to sell it (the Kalik 40 we saw had been on the market for 18 months with no offers!)
Hope this helps - sorry I can't provide anything more specific on the Kalik 30 (although they do look nice boats - quite a sporty shape)
Jonny
The 30 was designed by Jac de Ridder of Holland, the hulls moulded in the far east - Malaysia (or somewhere very close to there I believe). Build quality is reportedly quite good - with excellent interior joinery.
However, as they are quite unknown they tend to be difficult to sell and second hand prices much lower as a result (according to the broker we spoke to).
So I guess my answer would be - if you want to keep it for a long time and it meets all your criteria - then go for it.
If you intend to re-sell it within a relatively short space of time think carefully as it could take a while to sell it (the Kalik 40 we saw had been on the market for 18 months with no offers!)
Hope this helps - sorry I can't provide anything more specific on the Kalik 30 (although they do look nice boats - quite a sporty shape)
Jonny
Sans Bateau
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Forumite Gaupa has a Kalik 40.
FullCircle
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Forumite Guapa will whip you - its a Kalik 44. He is also very Evangelistic about the Marque, and will bathe you in a warm glow with regard to his Kalik Ownership Experience.
Having crewed the thing, if its as well built as the 44, you could use it as an armoured gunboat.
Having crewed the thing, if its as well built as the 44, you could use it as an armoured gunboat.
Sans Bateau
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Hey whats 4ft amougst friends!?
Koeketiene
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We looked at a Kalik 40 not too long ago when buying our boat.
The 30 was designed by Jac de Ridder of Holland, the hulls moulded in the far east - Malaysia (or somewhere very close to there I believe). Build quality is reportedly quite good - with excellent interior joinery.
However, as they are quite unknown they tend to be difficult to sell and second hand prices much lower as a result (according to the broker we spoke to).
So I guess my answer would be - if you want to keep it for a long time and it meets all your criteria - then go for it.
If you intend to re-sell it within a relatively short space of time think carefully as it could take a while to sell it (the Kalik 40 we saw had been on the market for 18 months with no offers!)
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The Kalik you looked at; its not this one by any chance?
She's listed with Ancasta - broker's comment -> Gary Mull design.
Well she's not - only the Kalik 44 was designed by Gary Mull.
Once I've caught some-one on one inaccuracy, I tend to take everything else with a pinch of salt.
Also, on this particular one the asking price is WAY to high. Since we've discovered Kalik I've been following the market for a bit. All have sold within 6-8 months. For an unknown brand, this is pretty good going.
The thing to keep in mind with Kalik is that it's a series of designs, not one specific yard. Some were built in Korea, some in the US and some in Belgium or Holland.
What they're worth very much depends on where they were built. Korean ones have delamination issues and are best avoided.
My guess: you're looking at this one. The blurb says moulded in the Far East & fitted out in Belgium.
If that's true, she will have been fitted out by Vennekens. Get her hull number and contact the yard - they will be able to tell you a lot more.
Kalik: they sail very well without being a handful. Most of the time it's just the eldest & me and we've yet to find the boat too much to handle. Very solid feel, brick shithouse, "bring it on" attitude.
Added bonus (IM not so HO /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif ): it's not just another (insert AWB name here); it's different, it's got character /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
In short: sailing a Kalik's fun - and that's what it should be.
We looked at a Kalik 40 not too long ago when buying our boat.
The 30 was designed by Jac de Ridder of Holland, the hulls moulded in the far east - Malaysia (or somewhere very close to there I believe). Build quality is reportedly quite good - with excellent interior joinery.
However, as they are quite unknown they tend to be difficult to sell and second hand prices much lower as a result (according to the broker we spoke to).
So I guess my answer would be - if you want to keep it for a long time and it meets all your criteria - then go for it.
If you intend to re-sell it within a relatively short space of time think carefully as it could take a while to sell it (the Kalik 40 we saw had been on the market for 18 months with no offers!)
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The Kalik you looked at; its not this one by any chance?
She's listed with Ancasta - broker's comment -> Gary Mull design.
Well she's not - only the Kalik 44 was designed by Gary Mull.
Once I've caught some-one on one inaccuracy, I tend to take everything else with a pinch of salt.
Also, on this particular one the asking price is WAY to high. Since we've discovered Kalik I've been following the market for a bit. All have sold within 6-8 months. For an unknown brand, this is pretty good going.
The thing to keep in mind with Kalik is that it's a series of designs, not one specific yard. Some were built in Korea, some in the US and some in Belgium or Holland.
What they're worth very much depends on where they were built. Korean ones have delamination issues and are best avoided.
My guess: you're looking at this one. The blurb says moulded in the Far East & fitted out in Belgium.
If that's true, she will have been fitted out by Vennekens. Get her hull number and contact the yard - they will be able to tell you a lot more.
Kalik: they sail very well without being a handful. Most of the time it's just the eldest & me and we've yet to find the boat too much to handle. Very solid feel, brick shithouse, "bring it on" attitude.
Added bonus (IM not so HO /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif ): it's not just another (insert AWB name here); it's different, it's got character /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
In short: sailing a Kalik's fun - and that's what it should be.
testmonkey
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did you read the test already?
http://www.kalik33.nl/Kalik30.htm
http://www.kalik33.nl/Kalik30.htm
PIGLETSDREAM
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The Kalik 40 for sale by Ancasta has been on the market for at least two years maybe more. She is moored dicectly behind us at Southsea. I have been on board a few times and spoken to the owner. He is Begian and has had her from new, collecting her from Tawain himself. She is a beautiful boat although with equipment that may be a little dated, but then if it aint broke etc etc. I got the impression that he really does not want to sell her, but would look at having someone take some shares in her. I also understand that he lost his partner not so long ago and that was what prompted him to sell. If I had the money she would be mine now. Shame its with Ancasta cos their knowledge of the craft will be zero. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Koeketiene
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That explains a lot.
When we viewed her last year we were accompanied by an Ancasta "spotty". Could not really tell us much about the boat other than that the asking price was pretty much what the owner hoped to get. But we could finance it through Ancasta.
Bought Guapa (Kalik 44) in Holland for 71K 3 weeks later.
When we viewed her last year we were accompanied by an Ancasta "spotty". Could not really tell us much about the boat other than that the asking price was pretty much what the owner hoped to get. But we could finance it through Ancasta.
Bought Guapa (Kalik 44) in Holland for 71K 3 weeks later.
Jonny_H
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That was the one we looked at - and I agree that the guys at Ancasta who we spoke to knew very little about her - in fact they even tried to discourage us from going to see her with comments like "its a long way to go to see her especially with the football traffic today" (we were at Port Solent!) "She needs lots of work, you could probabaly find better", "She really is over priced".
Not the best comments from the broker!
Never the less, she was impressive when we looked on her - very nice boat although as has been stated, some of the systems would need updating.
The reasons we decided against her was:
Price - over priced as you say
Layout - We weren't 100% sold on this below
Otherwise a great looking boat, we did some research and found good reports of handling etc. Certainly the hull shape looks like she would be a fast passage maker.
Still, they look like great boats - and the 30 you linked to looks lovely.
Jonny
Not the best comments from the broker!
Never the less, she was impressive when we looked on her - very nice boat although as has been stated, some of the systems would need updating.
The reasons we decided against her was:
Price - over priced as you say
Layout - We weren't 100% sold on this below
Otherwise a great looking boat, we did some research and found good reports of handling etc. Certainly the hull shape looks like she would be a fast passage maker.
Still, they look like great boats - and the 30 you linked to looks lovely.
Jonny
pelicanpete
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When out sailing on a nice sunny day, try some of this ...
http://www.bahamasgo.com/whats.htm
http://www.bahamasgo.com/whats.htm
michael_w
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Beer and pineapple = yuk! Where is the puke smiley?
thalassa
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Just chiming in on the Vennekens connection. I've been there several times. It's a relatively small yard, specializing in custom-built high-end yachts and mobo's, but highest quality workmanship.
pelicanpete
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The pineapple is the copy-writer's tongue-in-cheek take off of Corona and lime wedge...
No one actually drinks Kalik with a pineapple chunk. That apart, Kalik is an excellent beer. Light, Regular or Gold, nothing can beat it when you're sunbathing on a soft white sand beach in the Bahamas or floating off the stern of your boat in the crystal waters of the out-islands.
No one actually drinks Kalik with a pineapple chunk. That apart, Kalik is an excellent beer. Light, Regular or Gold, nothing can beat it when you're sunbathing on a soft white sand beach in the Bahamas or floating off the stern of your boat in the crystal waters of the out-islands.
Koeketiene
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